Where does photography stop and painting begin?

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  1. Grandpa Ron

    Grandpa Ron TPF Noob!

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    A friend of mine sent a dozen pictures of places you must see before you die.

    These were truly gorgeous photographs if sky, rocks, water, ice, sun rises and sets like you have never seen before, captured in the breathtaking formations of mountains, valleys and deserts.

    As I started to experiment with digital photography and the various "Photo Shop" type programs, I realized that I probably never would see these images, because they only exist in the binary 1's and 0's of some computer memory.

    I know that photographs have always been pushed, pulled, burned and dodged to enhance the images; but todays photographs are easels upon which pixel artists can paint thier artwork.

    Do not get me wrong, a good picture is a good picture. But, when does it change from a photograph to a painting?


     
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    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    When it's created with paint and a brush?
     
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    webestang64 Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    I "paint" with light onto film. But to me it's still a photograph.


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    Grandpa Ron TPF Noob!

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    Yes, a picture is a picture per se, but when you color a subjects shirt to better match the background, darken the eye's iris color and deepen the tone of the lips, is that not the same as using a pixel brush?

    Artistic talent presents itself no matter what the media, that is for sure.

    I suppose it is just one more step in the evolution of the photographic art form.
     
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    :thumbyo: Yep, I'm going with paint -- you squeeze it out of a tube.

    Joe
     
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    Ysarex Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Here's a shocker for you: I once saw a photograph that had no color in it! Can you imagine? All the blue of the sky and green plant life, people's faces, everything no color! How the bleep do you still call that a photograph?

    Joe
     
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    Jamesaz No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Sometimes my paintings and mixed-media pieces incorporate photographic elements, some even begin as photographs but I can't think of a time when a photograph crossed into painting, and I do a fair amount of hand coloring of van dyke prints.
     
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    I think what you’re after is to define the line between a photograph and digital art. That line is gray and meandering.
     
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    Photography is originally a greek word so it has the same meaning in greek. it consists of two words put together. "photo" which derives from "phos" and it means "light" in english, and graphy,which probably derives from graphi , which can mean write or drawing.
     
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    Overread has a hat around here somewhere Staff Member Supporting Member

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    This. It's very easy to draw a line on the extreme ends, but the line in the middle gets a bit more confusing and complicated. Many competitions stick with a general "no cloning/copying/healing tool use" to remove elements (even lamp posts and trees sticking out of heads); whilst many photographers would consider removal of such things trivial and not taking away from the photo itself. Indeed where things like power-lines cannot be avoided they are often removed to improve the photo (in the creative view of the photographer).

    I think it is a line that is hard to define, but that the key is that you're always honest with what you choose to produce. I've seen some really outstanding composite works which were very much drawn as much as they were photographed. I've seen the results of someone taking a photo of 3 people dressed up in arctic explorer gear in a parade; then editing it so that they were standing in a blizzard in a snowy tundra. The effect was great and the created artwork none the lesser because part of it used a photograph. It wasn't a photograph on its own any more, but it was just another work of art.
     
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    I can't easily define it, but I'll know it when I see it.
     
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    Will you though?

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    Disclaimer: That link is probably NSFW
     
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