ZV1-M2 on Trip: Gimbal or no Gimbal?

[William Baroo]

The wife and I are off on another trip.

I splurged on an A7IV, but I'm taking my 200D because it's lighter and has a lens I like.

For video, I have a Sony ZV1-M2. I also have a Zhiyung Crane M2 S I got on another trip after a rough bus ride in Hong Kong.

Some dude on Youtube claims it's better to use the camera's internal stabilization and a program called Sony Catalyst Browse than to bother with the hassle and weight of a gimbal. I wonder if any of the smart people here have an opinion.

We will be in Switzerland and Rome. Cable cars and cog trains and so on.

 

[JoeW]

I've found gimbals to be very helpful when shooting: (a) on a moving vehicle like a range rover in Africa (so lots of bumps) (b) in a boat that is moving (c) or when on a tripod shooting something moving a great distance away (like a bald eagle). For me, personally, if it isn't one of those situations, I wouldn't bring the gimbal. It is a lot of weight. I don't think you need it for landscape, street photography, architecture. I think I'd prefer hand held with a faster shutter speed for shooting in a cable car.

 

[RAZKY]

The wife and I are off on another trip.

I splurged on an A7IV, but I'm taking my 200D because it's lighter and has a lens I like.

For video, I have a Sony ZV1-M2. I also have a Zhiyung Crane M2 S I got on another trip after a rough bus ride in Hong Kong.

Some dude on Youtube claims it's better to use the camera's internal stabilization and a program called Sony Catalyst Browse than to bother with the hassle and weight of a gimbal. I wonder if any of the smart people here have an opinion.

We will be in Switzerland and Rome. Cable cars and cog trains and so on.

I prefer a fluid video head to a gimbal.

 

[Woolsocks]

internal stabilization and a program called Sony Catalyst

Some photographers have steadier hands then others and don't think twice about it.

Do you have a gallery of your shots/video from hong kong. I'd like to see them if you like.

 

[VidThreeNorth]

The wife and I are off on another trip.

I splurged on an A7IV, but I'm taking my 200D because it's lighter and has a lens I like.

For video, I have a Sony ZV1-M2. I also have a Zhiyung Crane M2 S I got on another trip after a rough bus ride in Hong Kong.

Some dude on Youtube claims it's better to use the camera's internal stabilization and a program called Sony Catalyst Browse than to bother with the hassle and weight of a gimbal. I wonder if any of the smart people here have an opinion.

We will be in Switzerland and Rome. Cable cars and cog trains and so on.

That would take a few pages for me to describe. In the long run there is going to be a physical limit to whatever stabilization is going to be best. The simplest starting point is to remember that if the sensor is moving, then the maximum it can move defines one maximum measure. But if a lens is moving then its maximum movement can have a greater effect than a sensor move. But that is just a starting point. You need to consider the movement over time.

 

[Woolsocks]

the sensor is moving, then the maximum it can move defines one maximum measure. But if a lens is moving then its maximum movement can have a greater effect than a sensor

What????????? LOL. Sounds like a trick the beginning of a trick question in a multiple choice quiz.

1. Is the lens moving and not the camera
2. Does the camera body move but not the lens
3. Do both the camera lens and the camera body move together
4. Does the camera body and the lens move separately in different directions on both the x and y axis.
5. None of the above.
6. All of the above.
7. #1 and #3.

 

[Golem]

I've found gimbals to be very helpful when shooting: (a) on a moving vehicle like a range rover in Africa (so lots of bumps) (b) in a boat that is moving (c) or when on a tripod shooting something moving a great distance away (like a bald eagle). For me, personally, if it isn't one of those situations, I wouldn't bring the gimbal. It is a lot of weight. I don't think you need it for landscape, street photography, architecture. I think I'd prefer hand held with a faster shutter speed for shooting in a cable car.

I get the impression that youre about shooting stills.

 

[Golem]

What????????? LOL. Sounds like a trick the beginning of a trick question in a multiple choice quiz.

1. Is the lens moving and not the camera
2. Does the camera body move but not the lens
3. Do both the camera lens and the camera body move together
4. Does the camera body and the lens move separately in different directions on both the x and y axis.
5. None of the above.
6. All of the above.
7. #1 and #3.

VidThree makes sense to me. OIS can offer more effective travel, being near the optical center rather than at the very terminus of the optical path where the sensor must be. Do some basic googling on IS. Further from center means the IS device must move over a greater dimension for a same degree of IS. The imaging sensor is (must be) as far from the optical center as anything (in the imaging path) could possibly be (cuz its at the focus).

 

[William Baroo]

I have to apologize. I was asking about video. I don't think I made that clear. I'm using the ZV1M2 for this. The 200D is for stills.

We are in Europe, and the gimbal has sat in our hotel rooms. The hassle of carrying the gimbal, the 200D with an 18-135mm lens, the ZV1M2, a Smallrig tripod, and a wireless mike set is just too much. I am shooting at 4K in hopes that if any cropping has to happen later, I won't lose too much.

When I have too much junk, plus the wife, I get so busy I fail to experience what's around me. We are near Lauterbrunnen now, and fiddling with cameras too much distracts me from astonishing scenery.

Maybe I'll get the gimbal out eventually.

My wife keeps texting her silly relatives about asinine drama instead of looking around her. Millennials! When I was a kid, all the scenery my family had was a couple of sticks in our backyard, and we were damned grateful.

 

[JoeW]

I get the impression that youre about shooting stills.

I shoot a wide range of stuff. I like to shoot hummingbirds and bald eagles. Landscapes, Light painting, flowers, architecture, street photography, sports, models, unique macro (like bubbles).

What I don't shoot: astro, aerial, fashion, fetish, portraits and weddings (except with rare exceptions), and video.

 

[William Baroo]

Took the gimbal up the Schilthorn today. I'm done with it. The aggravation was not worth it.