How crappy are these lenses?

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  1. ShutteredEye

    ShutteredEye TPF Noob!

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    http://www.ritzcamera.com/webapp/wc...=-1&productId=5937848&bct=t1004;c1022;c914962

    Or:

    http://www.ritzcamera.com/webapp/wc...-1&productId=13145707&bct=t1004;c1022;c914962

    Ever the stingy bastard (read, "student") I am always looking for good values. I am looking for something well below 28mm, not horribly slow, but at a budget price. Wanting to take it with me on our honeymoon, which begins next Sunday and will include some really scenic landscape opportunities.

    If these lenses are going to suck big green donkey things, do you have any other suggestions?
     
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    I had a cheapie 18-38 Samyang, which I believe make/made Quantaray, and it was surprisingly good.

    The pics were very good if stopped down to f5.6 or smaller and at f8-f16 wer impressive IMHO.

    This lens had one HUGE drawback, although you could often work around it, and it flared horribly if any sliver of the Sun got into the photo.

    I now have a Zenitar 16mm that I got on ebay for $99. It also flares but otherwise is quite good. I have posted several pics here in the forums using it.

    Premium ultrawides are verrrry cool but for the price I have always gotten by quite well with the cheapies. The wideangle effect is what grabs the eye.

    My $0.02. YMMV.

    LWW
     
  3. Big Mike

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    I don't know much about those particular lenses...but I've got a thought.

    If a lens will allow you to get a shot that you would otherwise not be able to get, then accepting its flaw is a little easier. Especially for something like a honnymoon...when you look back at these photos...years from now...chances are you won't look at the poor edge sharpness and say 'Darn, I wish I had a better lens that day'. Photo can serve as reminders of when we were there, regardless of their absolute quality. I was reminded of this just yesterday, I was looking through one of my fiancé's old photo albums and about half of the photos were out of focus...some of them really badly out of focus...but that does not matter to the family when they look back and remember. I've got a few, less than spectacular lenses that make great 4x6 photos.

    Wow...that was a little wordy...and somewhat off topic...sorry. :)
     
  4. ShutteredEye

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    LOL, thanks Mike, it's a good point. And you're right about the memories. Some of my favorite photos I've taken of my daughter were with a APS p&s Elph that happened to have a zoom, LOL!!

    But some of our excursions we've planned include places like Chichen Itsa, and boat rides to some barrier reef islands off of Belize etc. Some places that have some fabulous photographic opportunities, and it may be the last time I visit there. So I do want some quality shots as well. And I'm not going to buy a lense that will just get me through one trip. If I'm going to add to the "arsenal" then I want it to be something I can use post trip too!

    LWW: Thanks for the reviews of similar lenses. Right now I'm leaning towards the Tamron b/c all I've heard of Quantaray is they are crap. Unfortunately, that's what my other two lenses are!!!!! (28-90 3.5-5.6 & 70-300 4-5.6) hahahaha Boy, ignorance was bliss.....
     
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    An additional thought is this...WHY BUY A NEW LENS???

    In all honesty I've NEVER had a lens break in 40 yrs of picture taking starting with a Kodak 110 thru a Nikon F4s and have only bought acouple of lenses new. IOW I's rather have a Nikkor 300mm f4 used than a Sigma 300mm f4 for the same price.

    HERE is a Canon 20-35 AF like new for $279!

    that sells for $369

    HERE!

    Ebay is also a great source for used stuff as are pawn shops and camera stores.

    LWW
     
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    I'd go Tamron over Quantaray for sure. If you can afford it, Sigma makes a 17-35mm f2.8 that is a bit more. I have one and I absolutely L-O-V-E it.
     
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    I've been looking at one of those myself. Mind if I ask how much $ you paid?

    Yuo could always give a cheapo converter a try Mountainlander you can get those for $50 or less. Otherwise what are you shooting with? Lots of people sell their Canon 18-55mm EFS lenses on ebay cheap.
     
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    My widest lense is the kit lense that came with my camera. Quantaray :confused: 28-90 3.5-5.6. I don't think the EFS will fit my GII will it?
     
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    :drool: :drool: :drool: That sure would look nice next to my 24-70 EX and Planned zoom 200mm+ EX! Hmmmmm, you have me thinking again! New computer or more glass :scratch:

    Mountainlander: Unfortunately no the EFS glass wont fit your GII. I had that theory once since basically the reason it wont fit the 10D is because the mount opening isn't big enough. So I tried to fit a freinds EFS on my Rebel, it doesn't work. Unfortunately it is another completely proprietary mount system. EFS only (ie: digital rebel, rebel xt, 20D)

    The Zenitars are OK though. A freind of mine uses a Zenitar 16mm f/2.8 on his d100 Nikon and get awesome results. The only drawback is they are full manual ONLY! Manual focus, manual f/#. Meaning you onboard meter will only display "00" and blink when you try to meter something.
     
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    i'd go for the sigma 18-50 2.8 EX instead. it's a little more expensive, but (as far as i've read) is quite, quite good. check out here for lens reviews, it's really helpful: http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/
     
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    Grrr. Of course there is ALWAYS a nicer lense on the horizon. That may be out of my price range....
     

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