More Sky Troubles

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  1. Goldeeno

    Goldeeno TPF Noob!

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    I wanted to try a B+W barn/building shot, and on the day i take my camera the sky is horrible. Can anyone try and help with doing something with it. Ive had a go but only by changing the layer blending.

    Heres the original

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    And my attempt, just put the layer in "Exclusion", and changed saturation, hue etc.
    I love the barn and foreground detail, but i think the sky kills the photo a bit.

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  2. The_Traveler

    The_Traveler Completely Counter-dependent Supporting Member

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    what this picture needs is a new sky.

    B&W is tonality. The existing tones in the sky are so close that they will become a mush in B&W no matter what you do.
     
  3. Goldeeno

    Goldeeno TPF Noob!

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    Enough said, cheers ill know for next time. Thanks
     
  4. heip

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  5. Goldeeno

    Goldeeno TPF Noob!

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    Thats better, but im not so keen on the gainy effect. I should have gone back this evening, the sky was awesome, dammit!
    Cheers
     
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    I thought i might try to give you a hand, let me know what you think.
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    Nothing better than the real thing! Keep an eye on the sky, and when you nail it please post it here.
     
  8. Goldeeno

    Goldeeno TPF Noob!

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    Oh i will, one day... went back today on the way to work, and the cloud was a sheet.. even worse, grrr

    Nice edit photo monkey, its much better, but i preffer my darker contrast, Nice tho.
     
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    Thanks, it a tough sky to work with.
     
  10. ksmattfish

    ksmattfish Now 100% DC - not as cool as I once was, but still

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    "Exclusion" and "difference" blending modes are more about visualizing multiple layers than creating effects for output.

    Here's my quick (under 10 min) try...

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    make new layer
    increase saturation on new layer: cyan +20, blue +20
    channel mixer on new layer: 100% red channel, grayscale
    shadow/highlight tool on new layer: 20% highlights, 50% tonal width, 100 radius
    curves on new layer: to taste for sky (don't worry about anything else)
    reduce noise: strength 6
    make a new layer on top from the color background layer
    channel mixer on new layer: 20red/70green/10blue, grayscale
    curves to taste for foreground (don't worry about sky)
    use masking to combine foreground from newest layer with sky from other BW layer, merge down
    burn/dodge various areas of BW layer using selection lasso and curves
    make new BW layer
    smart sharpen one BW layer: high percentage/low radius
    mask together BW layers: sharpened layer for foreground, non sharpened layer for sky
    merge down (BW layers only)
    unsharp mask BW layer: low percentage/high radius
    switch blending mode of BW layer to luminosity
    flatten image
    increase saturation: +50 cyan, +30 blue, +25 red, +10 yellow

    It would look better if I'd worked on a larger file; less noise and posterization in the sky, etc...

    And in BW...

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    channel mixer: 40r/50g/10b
    usm: low percentage/high radius
     
  11. Goldeeno

    Goldeeno TPF Noob!

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    Lol, thats awesome, probably how id want the photo to be if anything. Must have taken awhile and for that im greatful!
    Cheers
     
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    ksmattfish Now 100% DC - not as cool as I once was, but still

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    Less than 10 minutes; that's the beauty of Photoshop! Of course if I was working on these for print I would have spent more time on making the masking more precise. For web only display I can get away with fast and sloppy masking.
     

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