On the beach

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  1. lee_M

    lee_M TPF Noob!

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    Hi all its really bad weather today so between the rain showers i went down the beach! it was really cloudy and over cast:thumbdown:
    so i took a few shoots then it started to rain!

    Right now i'm NEW to the photography thing and i have only had a camera for 3weeks "So be nice":lol:


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    Alex_B No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    i like the first one the most, as it focusses on one object ... the others are full of so many things ...

    in the last one shallow depth of field would be nicer IMHO ...


    the third one appears very flat and unspectacular. I think that one would require a much more interesting perspective. the way it is now, it is neither fish nor meat (errm, German saying ;) )

    oh, and I would never go for frames which put a shade on part of the image, personally.

    And now for something completely different ... would anyone be interested in a Cornwall/Devon meetup? .. ok , maybe we better make this a thread in the meetup forum ;)

    I won't be back in Devon before next year though...
     
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    lee_M TPF Noob!

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    Cool thanks for the advice! 'Shallow depth of field' what does that mean and how can i improve on it?
    the third one was flat! or is it the angle that i have taken the picture on thats made it look flater?
    As for the border i see what you mean but i have just been messing with CS2 so i'll try and improve on that too
     
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    lee_M TPF Noob!

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    I have this photo aswell, its the first one i have taken using my new canon EF 200mm L lens it was ****ing down with rain! so i think thats why theres not much colour!

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    Alex_B No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    well, use a wider aperture (smaller number), and the field of what will appear un-blurred sharp will get more shallow. That way you achive selective sharpness.

    Yes, you shot at an angle such that everything is in one plane perpendicular to your line of sight. there are certainly compositions where this would work, but with what you show here it certainly is a rather boring perspective. Other angles might add tension to the image.
     
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    Alex_B No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    to see the effect, just take two pictures of an object close to you, say 1 meter, in front of a background say 6 meters away. Focus on the object.
    In one shot you choose f/4, for the other f/8 or above. then compare and see the difference.
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    That is great for photography...it's like mother nature is giving us a gigantic soft box.

    Depth of field is the area in a photo that appears to be relatively in focus. Here is an explanation from a great site.
    By controlling the DOF, you can do things like throwing the background out of focus...so that it is not distracting. This is good for outdoor portraits, for example. Your first shot...of the screw...that has a shallow DOF.

    There are several things that control DOF...the main thing is the aperture. A bigger aperture (smaller F number) gives you a shallower DOF. Alternatively...a small aperture (high F number) gives you a deeper DOF...which is good for landscapes etc.
    Focal length also plays a part. The longer the lens...and the closer to the subject you are...the shallower the DOF will be.
     
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    OK thanks mate i'll try that tomorrow if it ever stops raining:meh:
    thanks for the help:thumbup:
     
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    c'mon, you can do that indoors... try the staircase or whatever is there in your house ;)
     
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    Ok i think i understand that!:blushing:

    I'm getting there slowly:mrgreen:
     
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    Done it Alex!!
    I think this is what you ment!:thumbup: :blushing:
    I used my new L lens and i used Manual focus i was focusing on the rolling pin LOL

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    Ohh i have just looked in the manual and i was using the P mode, and i think i should of been using the AV mode 'Aperture-priority' but i'm not sure really!
     
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    I think you are getting it. :thumbsup:
    Now the trick is knowing when to use a shallow DOF and when not to. Not there there is a right and wrong...this is art after all.

    Another thing you have to watch for...is the shutter speed. When you close down the aperture (higher F number) to get a deeper DOF...you will need to keep the shutter open longer to let in more light. When the shutter is open longer...you are more susceptible to the dreaded camera shake...which causes blurry images. (or blurry photos due to subject movement). The rule of thumb, when shooting with the camera in your hands...is that the shutter speed should be higher than the focal length of the lens. So with your 200mm lens...you should have a shutter speed faster than 1/200.
     

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