Product Photography Advice

Discussion in 'Commercial/Product photography' started by Jessica332, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. Jessica332

    Jessica332 TPF Noob!

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    Greetings everyone! I'm in need of some product photography advice and I hope that this is a good place to ask. I'm not a total "beginner," although I don't do paid shoots either... this sub-forum seemed to be the best fit.

    I work in a small business, and we are trying to get some of our products online so that we can sell product in e-commerce direct to consumer. Of course images sell products online, so that's where we are stuck right now. We have an Olympus E-M10 Mark II camera with a M.Zuiko ED 30mm f3.5 macro lens, and a tripod. Not the best, but it's what we have to work with. We also have three Andoer light diffusers and a small plastic infinity curve.

    We are trying to get images that are similar to these: Lapis Facial Oil

    You can look over product images there to get an idea of what I mean. They are nice, striking images often with pronounced shadow and apparently direct lighting (possibly direct and diffuse both). They are well lit and seem to shimmer a bit, although without excessive glare.

    Meanwhile, it seems that product images that we take in house just feel...well, dull. We take our shots on a tripod, manual settings at F22, ISO low, and adjust the shutter speed for lighting. We've tried varying the shutter speed up and down for brightness, and a little brightness does help some.

    We've tried placing two of our light diffusers in the front (45 degrees left and right) and the third coming up through a plastic infinity curve to give a backlight effect. Still not really vibrant in the sense as the ones linked above.

    Should we be shooting in sunlight? Any tips you can offer would be greatly appreciated!


     
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    Your examples look pretty straight-forward and simple to replicate. Some examples of your current images as well as a photo of your set-up and details of the gear would help greatly.
     
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    I guess my main question is: what are they doing to get their lighting effect? It looks bright like daylight, and clearly isn't coming from a diffuser. Every one of their products has this effect, with the shadow essentially in the same place.

    They also have an interesting backdrop. It's not a curve, but rather a 90 degree corner. I don't know how they constructed it...

    I don't have access to a photo at this moment but when I can I'll post.
     
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    Do not use two lights each at 45 degrees.
     
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    Sorry I meant each was 45 degrees from the "front." So a total of 90 degrees (maybe more). Is that still bad?

    I'm beginning to conclude that the lighting is the culprit all along. We have diffuse lighting but I think direct would work better. The thing is I have no idea how to work with direct lighting. How do I get it? The sun isn't reliable enough where I am...
     
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    I'm confused on your gear. Is this a constant light source or speedlite or strobe with this "Andoer light diffuser"? The main photos look pretty straight forward with one light off axis to right and above camera. Some of the other product shots look like composites or were at least cut out in Photoshop. I dont know a whole lot about micro 4/3 (or product photography) but f22 sounds high. The high aperture could be causing diffraction thus less sharp and/or saturated. Like TiredIron has said some samples would help to diagnose the issues at hand
     
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    Two lights can create either competing shadows, or create almost shadowless lighting. You don't want either, but you want one shadow, and that means one light. Period.
     
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    Please post an example of what you are getting now. Include as much information as you can. At least one shot of your product, and a shot of the overall setup. (can be made with a mobile phone camera)

    No, sunlight is not the answer.

    I'm guessing that your lights are continuously on, and are simply not producing the amount of light you need. Also, editing is part of the process.

    Besides the angle of view, the frame, and the focus, of course, the lighting type, staging, background, and editing are all important.
     
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    O.K., it looks like you should have plenty of light, so there is something else that is happening. I'll be waiting for the example.
     

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