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  1. Artemis

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    Im one of those weird people who loves getting new stuff for stuff he has.
    Well im buying a SLR soon, and i wanna know a list of all the accessories you can get for SLR cameras if thats possible.

    Please include things like.
    Tripods, monopods etc.

    this is the camera im getting:
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  2. Big Mike

    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I love getting new stuff too, however I think it might be best to just get the basics to start with.

    This way you can better learn the capabilities and limitations of your camera. You will also have a better idea of what accessories you will need for your style of shooting. After all, nobody has all the accessories, and quite a lot of us have enough of them that we have to make compromises because we can't take them all with us all the time.

    I'd say that some good starter accessories would be...a tripod, a UV filter (to protect the lens), a circular polarizer, a remote shutter release (although the self timer will suffice), an accessory flash (of you plan on doing flash photography).
     
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    well i have a tripod, that about it.
    Whats a UV filter do exactly?
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Well, I'm not entirely sure that it has much, if any, effect on the photographs but a lot of people use them to protect the front element of the lens. It keeps the lens glass from having to be cleaned too often. If you drop the camera or anything comes into contact with the front of the lens, it's much better to replace just a UV filter than the whole lens.
     
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    I would go with a lens shade over the UV filter to protect your lens. Unless you plan on spending $$$ on a multicoated high quality filter. There no sense in putting cheap glass in front of your lenses. Save the money and get yourself a nice polarizer. A good circular polarizer will run $75+
     
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    I think i know what that is, im getting better :D thanks guys, anything else?
     
  7. GerryDavid

    GerryDavid No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I didnt read the specs of the camera you posted, but im assuming its using expensive cr2 or some other uncommon/expensive battery format. When I got mine, instead of paying $30 cdn for 2 new batteries every 20-35 rolls of film, I bought a $20us battery pack off of ebay *regularly $70 cdn in stores* that uses 4 AA batteries that are rechargeable. So far I havent even had to replace them.

    The battery pack I got *I think BP-200, made for my camera* also gives you a longer grip on the side and gives the camera a more of a quality feel. Also there is a 2nd shutter release button on the side so I can hold it side ways, which is good unless your in manual mode since the manual buttons are on the other side.

    And as for tripod, you may want to spend a bit more and get a good tripod that can do more than hold a camera. Some tripod's let you tilt the camera 90 degree's into portrait mode *my triopod does this, but it tilts it to the right so both shutter buttons are on the bottom and its a real pain to use that way, which is where the shutter release comes into play*. So if you can get one that tilts to the left, that would be better.

    Also some tripods let you flip the pole that holds the camera to the botom so you can hold the camera right next to the ground for macro or low level pictures. Mine doesnt do this, but it would be nice if it could.

    Some tripods have a quick release on them, which lets you take the camera on and off of it fast, but can be a pain if you have 2 camera's and only one quick release plate, so odds are when you need it, the plate is on the camera that is at home. Im still wondering if I can buy a 2nd plate for my vivitar tripod.

    Hmm, filters are good to have. UV filters cut down on the haze so if your doing landscape pictures, of far away objects, they will be more clear, the sky/clouds will show up better and colors are more true. Im pretty sure thast what a UV one does. Appearantly camera shops give you a cheap versioin of the UV filter usually, but I didnt get this. I think its called the skylight filter. Itsi pretty much only good for protecting the lense.

    Then theres the polerizer filter. If you use autofocus youll need a circular one, since the linear ones dont work with the autofocus. Im not sure if linear is the right term for that one. This will cut glare in pictures. So if your doing pictures of a lake and want to see the fish, this will help, or a picture of a person sitting in a car with the windows up, this will let you see in, etc.

    And theres a 3rd main filter, which my mind is coming to a blank.

    And a 4th one that I would like to have is called "neutral density" filter I believe. It just blocks light from hitting the film, so I can take longer exposures than I normally could. Good for extended exposures of running water, water falls, etc, to get the soft look. As well as public places. One nice trick of extended exposure is to set it up in a vey busy place and if you expose it long enough, and if you dont end up over exposing the picture, the place will look like it has no people there. Someone did this for something grand station or something like that in NY, and looks like theres no people there, which there always are.

    2 things on my wish list are lenses. Id like a wide angel lense and telephoto lense. Moreso the telephoto ones so I can zoom in on wild life when I cant get close enough to them. A 80-200mm lense is about 6X magnification at 200mm which is good for wild animals, but 300, 400mm, etc are better, but be prepared to pay alot of money. Wide angle is good for spots where you cant get back far enough to get in all fo the picture. One time I wish I had one, well the only time so far was when my fiancee was meeting Superchic[k] and I coudlnt get all the members of the group into one picture.

    And something else that wouldnt hurt would be a good flash unit. The built in flash units are not that good, and can create red eye. But with an external one you can hold it to the side, bounce it off of the ceiling, and if its on the camera, its up high enough to not create red eye. And you can set it more manually to how much flash you want to give, depending on the one you get, bu tthe ones ive seen are not all that cheap.

    But when your just starting out with the camera and you want a few toys with it, I would go with the UV filter, polerizer filter, cable release, and telephoto lense, as well as the tripod.

    And if you dont kown how to use the manual mode of the camera, I suggest a camera class/course to teach you how to use it, since you can take more creative pictures knowing how to use the camera to its full.

    Ive rambled enough here, hope it wasnt to much. :0).

    Oh ya, and on a side note, I bought my canon rebel 2000 just because I had planned to one day get the canon digital rebel and the lenses and stuff that works on the rebel 2000 will also work on the drebel. If it wasnt for that, I would probably be more interested in getting a medium format camera. Im sure they would be fun to play with.
     
  8. Walt

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    If you really want to go nuts, set up a darkroom!
     
  9. GerryDavid

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    A darkroom isnt that big of a setup, from what ive seen. :0)

    Pretty much need *for a black and white film darkroom*:
    * developing tank, 1 or 2 reel. Range in price between $20 and $40 cdn
    * developing solution, about $10 I think, depends on volumn
    * stop solution, close to the developing solution price I believe
    * fix solution, again, close to developign solution price I think.
    * Cant remember the name of the stuff, but you put it in a tub of water and you rince the film in it, and it prevents water circles that form when the water evaporates off of the negatives.

    Then if you wanted to develop the black and white film you need:
    * enlarger, which you can pick up used for probably between $50 and $250 cdn.
    * photo paper to expose the prints on
    * paper developing solution
    * paper stop solution
    * paper fix solution
    * and a dark place to do the paper printing in

    Personally I dont really see much point in developing the pictures myself, its cheaper to go to a trusted developer, unless your doing alot of large prints.

    Im not sure about doing the color version of this, its much more sensative to temperature, so if its not exactly the temperature its suppoes to be, plus or minus a fraction of a degree, itll mess up. Whereas with the b&w film, we didnt control the temp. we should have but we werent that strict about it.
     
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    If one is inclined to delve into the darkroom the point would be the process. Sure it's cheaper for a few prints to go to a developer. Take it a step farther, if all you want were some pictures you could just go buy some! I digress, you can go nuts with darkroom equipment.
    Things to get (a sample list!):
    Print dryers
    Print Washers
    Beakers
    safelights
    developing tanks
    changing bag
    print analyzers
    grain focusers
    easels
    paper safes
    enlarger timer
    contact printer
    various size trays
    just to name a few!!! :p :lol: :wink:
     
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    Ah, beakers, forgot about those. Things to measure the solutions in so you use the right amount and can mix the right ratios with. Myself I woudlnt go with a changign bag, I would just go into a dark room like a bathroom and move the film roll to the developing tank roll thing *cant think of the right name* and then come out intot he light to do the solution's with.

    Personally I dont really like printing, Id prefer to get a nice negative scanner and put them on the pc and play with them that way. I like the feel of my film camera but I dont like the cost of the film *$6 cdn for ilford b&w 125*, nor the developing costs of it *$20 or so, depends on the store* or even the developing costs of regular film *$6 cdn*. So the idea to buy a bulk loader and 100' or 200' of b&w film is very appealing. To take 36 pictures and develop them for around $1-$2 cdn.
     
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    Wow thanks guys.
    Well, the lucky thing about having a dad into photography, is he wants a dark room to, although if i know what hes like, hell just say "Naaahhh itll be to expensive" no matter how much it is :p parents ey?! LOL.

    As for the tripod, i got that, and i have a lille tiny tripy for close pics.
    My tripod has the quick snap stuff and does the 90 degree turn :p It was very cheap, less than £20, if your interested go to Jessops.com and find the tripod called Alfa 3, and yeah they spell it with a f which i dunno why.

    Im very lucky, cause i should be able to get a job right after my b-day, cause then im 16, so ill have loads of money to spend on new stuff.

    As for the camera classes, im taking photography at College, and they must teach you the basics at least, the disapointing thing its like ARt photography, apparently one kid took pics of loads of peoples feet as his project....wtf?lol

    Thanks for all your help guys, and i think my first toys will either be lenses, or filters :D

    P.S. How many different filters are there?
     

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