What to do with publishing request?

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  1. CraniumDesigns

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    Hey Guys,

    I got this in the mail...

    :: WHERE Oahu Summer/Fall 2009

    Hi there
    We wish to feature your image of Kawaiahao Church in our upcoming WHERE Oahu as spot size in editorial attraction section. Would you please let us know your usage rights. thx

    Current issue can be view online at:
    Oahu - WhereTraveler

    It's a digest size (2.5 x 3 inches) and distributed throughout Oahu quarterly.
    Thank you and please reply to my work email below.​

    this is the pic... Kawaiahao Church - Honolulu, Oahu, Hawaii (HDR) on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

    what should i do? accept? decline? ask for money? how much??? thanks.
     
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    Wow, that's great. As a beginner I can't offer real insight, but I would think that having something publish is every photographers dream. If it were me I would get something in writing that they would give me full credit in the article (and a free copy of course :sexywink:) and let them publish away. I'm sure others will have better advice.

    Congrats on getting the offer.
     
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    In that situation, I would allow them to use the image in exchange for full credit to be given. I would ask what their policy is for giving credit (where, font size, etc.). Having a published picture with credit, to me, is more valuable in the long run than getting a couple hundred bucks now... assuming you get a couple hundred out of the deal vs. botching the whole deal.

    Of course this assumes you want to be a professional photographer and you want to eventually sell work to other magazines or as art.

    Take my advice with a grain of salt, I've never had an image published and probably never will.
     
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    It has been quite a few years since I've sold anything to the media so hopefully someone else can give you an idea of what to charge. If not go to your library and check out a Photography Market book. They list fees based on usage and type of publication.

    The main reason I answer your question is to say, don't just give your photo. It is the best way to kill the market for everyone else.
     
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    Do not give your work away for free! Every time a photographer does that, they devalue the market for everyone else. "2009 Photographers Market" published by F+W Publications Save on Books, Magazines and DVDs for writers

    Yeah, I know it's a repeat, but it is important.
     
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    You should get the money and a credit
     
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    There ya go, I was all wet. Chalk it up to me not knowing. :)

    If I get approached someday, I'll be sure to request payment and credit.
     
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    Congrats on the inquiry.

    Firstly, I am suspicious by nature, so I would ask to speak with the Editor via phone to make sure this is a legit inquiry.

    Secondly, if you decide to "sell" the image for a usage license, you are not exempt legally, to pay Uncle Sam. Whether you sell 1 image your entire life, it is still considered taxable and you are considered a "sole trader" whether you are registered as a business or not. An exchange of goods for capital gain is taxable, hobby or not. I just wanted to make you aware of that. Visit the www.IRS.gov for more information.

    Thirdly, there are several usage licenses available. The very first thing you need to do, is read this link from the ASMP:
    ASMP: Property and Model Release Tutorial
    Make your own decisions on that.

    If you head down the road of licensing your image, understand what types of licenses are out there. Even though they mention editorial section of their publication, the image will more than likely be used for commercial reasons.
    I recommend you visit ASMP again in their "Licensing Guide" section. If you do that and you decide to price out your image, the Table of contents (on the right of that page), will help you appropriately price out your image for intended use.
    ASMP: Licensing Photography

    All your questions can be answered there.

    The reason why I post all this is, you need to know, so you can make a decision yourself. It is not as simple as sending a jpg, tiff, or whatever you decide on, with you name in lights. If anything at all, it will help you understand what the market of photography is all about.

    Best of luck.
     
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    sounds good, but i dont have any idea what to charge. what would u do in my case if u were to charge for it? PM me if u dont want it on here.
     
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    There are several of these types of "Guides" all over the net. They scour the photo hosting sites for pics. And they request "free" use of the pictures they like. Most do give credit for the pics. They do not pay for pictures ever! If they get turned down they go to the next on the list. And so on. Simple as that. They get their money by selling advertising on their web pages "the Guides". To them its a business and they are seeking free use of pictures so they can make a proffit or higher proffit than if they actually paid for the rights to the pictures. Basically they want to use your pictures for free so they can make some money!

    Some don't mind. Some think its a compliment. Others think it is just scammers abusing others good intentions to make a proffit.

    Its, all up to you and how you feel. But the minute you ask for money or try to negotiate, I guarantee you will not hear from them again! They move on to the next person they found a pic they like.
     
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    Hey there,
    I am just a beginner, and while I have an opinion on everything (ask my wife), I don't want to seem bullheaded or like a know it all. Not to argue with the post about the IRS, but my brother who is a lawyer, has spoken with me about selling photos and what not, and said legally, it depends on a percentage, as to whether Uncle Sam will collect his share. If less than XXXX, they will not. As for whether you should or should not sell it, that is your decision to make. I personally don't take pictures for everyone else. I take them because I LOVE the art, the critiques, the memories that we steal from a moment in time. So I don't feel that if you choose to be happy with a published work, that you are taking away from a market. Long story short, if you picked up the camera in hopes that it will make a return for you, or as an investment, yes, learn your rules and make your dimes. If you did it out of love and appreciation, be happy with what some of us will never know. Either way, best of luck to you.

    Chief
     
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    That thinking is leading to the death of professional photography.
     

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