critique thread

ksmattfish · Mar 10, 2004

In response to this lively thread

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4550&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

I propose that we need a Critique Gallery. Posting in the Critique Gallery would be different than the normal Photo Gallery, in that the act of posting would be a request for serious critique. The Photo Gallery would still remain the gallery for folks who want comments, but maybe aren't ready for a full blown critique of their work, or just want to keep folks up on what they are currently shooting, etc...

terri · Mar 10, 2004

mmmm, must we??? The gallery forum clearly states you are posting your photos there for feedback and comments....this might be another case of overly splintering the forum to accommodate a few. Just my two cents.

Chase · Mar 10, 2004

I see where your suggestion is coming from, but I think it would be better to set the expectation that if you post your photos in the gallery, it is for critique. I have made a slight change to the statement under the Photo Gallery link and I would be happy to edit it further based on suggestions to push the idea that if you post photos, it is with the understanding and expectation that you will receive feedback (both positive and negative) on them.

Thanks,

Some Admin Guy...

ksmattfish · Mar 10, 2004

Sure, that works.

Terri, you are probably right in that it would get too splintered. I guess that I feel that's it's not just black and white (no pun intended); it's not critique or no critique. There is a middle ground, where folks would like to post photos they are proud of and get comments and maybe some back patting without having their images torn to pieces by some egotistical, self-proclaimed expert (LIKE ME!!!).

I know that these could be posted in the themes gallery, but at the same time, sometimes it's a downer to have to post my sunset pic with all the other forty million sunset pics ( :lol:

just kidding! Sunsetters, you know I love ya). I think the themes gallery is a great place to learn and get ideas, but it seems to me that sometimes pics sort of get lost in there.

Many of the photography forum sites I visit have both galleries (and I'm glad this site isn't like them). It appears to me that most folks use the standard gallery over the critique gallery. I take this to mean they don't want a hardcore critique, and that's okay. Unless you're a egotistical, self-proclaimed expert a good critique can be quite intimidating, and not at all what you need to find inspiration to continue your art, craft, whatever. The egotistical, self proclaimed experts can handle a hardcore critique, because we are already secure in the knowledge that the rest of the world is a bunch of gibbering ignoramuses who don't have the vision to realize our artistic genius. :cyclops:

terri · Mar 10, 2004

The egotistical, self proclaimed experts can handle a hardcore critique, because we are already secure in the knowledge that the rest of the world is a bunch of gibbering ignoramuses who don't have the vision to realize our artistic genius.

Exactly. :mrgreen: You're so SMART.

Chase · Mar 10, 2004

Well, I'm not completely against the idea....I'd be intersted to hear what others think.

Speak up!

Osmer_Toby · Mar 10, 2004

i agree with terri. one gallery to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them.

MDowdey · Mar 10, 2004

Osmer_Toby said:
i agree with terri. one gallery to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them.

well, at least we will be total geeks together!!

md

Osmer_Toby · Mar 10, 2004

also, at the risk of being frowned on for offering a link to another site, the article found at http://www.naturephotographers.net/je1001-1.html is an excellent one- perhaps someone ought to write something similar for our site, and post it along with the directions on how to post images.
or maybe it can be reproduced here with the author's permission?

btw- is it cool to link to another site?

Chase · Mar 10, 2004

Osmer_Toby said:
btw- is it cool to link to another site?

I don't have a problem with it, but watch out for some of those crazy moderators

Geronimo · Mar 10, 2004

Osmer_Toby said:
btw- is it cool to link to another site?

There are other sites? :scratch:

ksmattfish · Mar 10, 2004

terri said:
The egotistical, self proclaimed experts can handle a hardcore critique, because we are already secure in the knowledge that the rest of the world is a bunch of gibbering ignoramuses who don't have the vision to realize our artistic genius.

Click to expand...

Exactly. :mrgreen: You're so SMART.

I tried to make this part of my signature, but it's too long!

tr0gd0o0r · Mar 10, 2004

I'm sort of torn on this whole issue. On one hand, whenever i post a pic, personally I want the hardcore critique that makes me run to my bed crying. But i normally get the normal stuff. Also i have a hard time motivating myself to write a simple little response to a photograph. But on the other hand I've been to some other forums that have like 50 different sections and its ridiculous. I'd rather see the forum stick together than splinter off into a million sub-categories. On the other hand, growth is important and sometimes things need to seperate, we just need to exercise caution with what gets created. I like the way this is being handlled, and if the majority of the people think its a good idea, then it is probably one of the occasions when a split is a good idea.

Personally I'd vote for trying the new forum out for a little while and see how it goes, but wait until there is plenty of input to make a decision w/

photogoddess · Mar 10, 2004

My 2 cents... 2 threads would be fine but if the forum sticks with 1... I think that if people that want an honest, sometimes painful critique, they should say it in their posts AND be willing to listen to the responses. If not, just ask for comments. When the person making the post doesn't specify, while I won't say anything untrue, I error on the side of caution.

vonnagy · Mar 10, 2004

give me pain, give me pain, baby!

My 2 cents... 2 threads would be fine but if the forum sticks with 1... I think that if people that want an honest, sometimes painful critique, they should say it in their posts AND be willing to listen to the responses. If not, just ask for comments. When the person making the post doesn't specify, while I won't say anything untrue, I error on the side of caution.

I think it already sort of happens this way naturally at the moment.

my my my, the photoforum has been quite lively today the past couple o'days!