I think Ive decided on my first ILC

[Cyay918]

I am going to sleep on it for a day or two (and see any replies here), but I have pretty much settled on the panasonic lumix dmc-g85. Ive watched countless reviews and comparisions. It seems like the G85 is one of the best "all around" cameras out there. 4K video, mirrorless and Four Thirds Sensor so its more compact for travel and street pictures, even though I do sacrifice a bit of low light capabilities. Touch screen, fully articulated, image stabilization, good viewfinder resolution, built in flash...

I mean I have watched videos and done comparisons on at least 25 cameras and this one seems like the most versitile and slightly more rugged since this is my first ILC compared to some of the others.


Is there any reason NOT to buy this camera that Im not aware of? I read reports of the AF not being as nimble as other cameras but I dont plan on doing much video with this at all. Its mainly for collecting memories of our family vacations and gatherings.

 

[SCraig]

What is an "ILC"?

 

[480sparky39 38]

What is an "ILC"?

Instantaneous Light Collector?

 

[Cyay918]

interchangeable lens camera... Saved me from typing it out at the time lol

 

[goodguy]

interchangeable lens camera... Saved me from typing it out at the time lol

ILC could also be "Internal Lubricant Collector"

 

[goodguy]

Used to own the Panasonic G7 and I was just not impressed with the low light performance, really not impressed.
Was so disappointed that I sold it and all the lenses I got and bought a Sony a6300.
I thought it will be enough for travel but no, not even enough for that, mind you though my standards and expectations are higher then the average user.
I think the Sony a6xxx offers a smaller package and better all around performance.

 

[fmw]

My own preference would be for a larger sensor and not just for better low light performance. If it is possible to get there, I would recommend it. Spend some time on Ebay and Amazon to see if you can find something with an APS-C size sensor. You will be glad you did. I'm not familiar with the Panasonic line personally but I assume it can get you there. If not then the Fujifilm or Sony lines certainly can.

I own a Panasonic point and shoot. I honestly don't know what size sensor it has but I can tell you its 16mp sensor doesn't compare well with my Fujis by any measure.

 

[chuasam]

I would prefer the Olympus OMD EM5 II.
Better image stabilization. Completely Weather sealed.

 

[Pedro_lopez]

Is there any reason NOT to buy this camera that Im not aware of? I read reports of the AF not being as nimble as other cameras but I dont plan on doing much video with this at all. Its mainly for collecting memories of our family vacations and gatherings.

You say you want more versatile and point out the 4k, but aren't too worried about autofocus for video?

Autofocus is also for still photography and if you catch yourself needing precise autofocus in low light the Sony a6500 will do better. I own the g85 and I know there's a lag in autofocus especially in low light but It doesn't bother me all that much, I don't have fast glass yet so it's to be expected.

I have mine geared towards video and when it comes to photography I usually end up grabbing my Nikon d3300 more then my g85. Upsets me though since I love the mirrorless system more.


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[TCampbell]

Is there any reason NOT to buy this camera that Im not aware of?

I'm not sure if it's a reason to "not" buy the camera... but one factor that you might not be aware of is that when you use a smaller sensor, the depth of field increases (it's one of the reasons why it's so hard to create background blur with small sensor cameras). It actually increases based on the actual crop-factor value.

A micro four-thirds camera has a crop factor of 2.0. If you were taking a portrait with a full-frame camera at, say, f/4... and you imagine how much background blur you'd get... with a crop frame camera you multiple the f-stop (4) by the crop factor (2.0) and that gets you f/8. For purposes of calculating the depth of field, if you shoot at f/4 with a 4/3rds camera you would get the equivalent DoF of shooting f/8 with a full-frame camera.

Based on your usage (capturing memories of family vacations and gatherings) you may not care about shallow depth of field.

Also, this is not to say that you can't create a shallow depth of field... it's just a slightly reduced from what you could get with an APS-C camera and significantly reduced from what you can get with a full frame camera.

 

[goodguy]

I have mine geared towards video and when it comes to photography I usually end up grabbing my Nikon d3300 more then my g85.


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Same with me when I had Panasonic G7, the AF was not as good as the D3300 and overall performance of the D3300 was simply better.

 

[beagle100]

I am going to sleep on it for a day or two (and see any replies here), but I have pretty much settled on the panasonic lumix dmc-g85. Ive watched countless reviews and comparisions. It seems like the G85 is one of the best "all around" cameras out there. 4K video, mirrorless and Four Thirds Sensor so its more compact for travel and street pictures, even though I do sacrifice a bit of low light capabilities. Touch screen, fully articulated, image stabilization, good viewfinder resolution, built in flash...

I mean I have watched videos and done comparisons on at least 25 cameras and this one seems like the most versitile and slightly more rugged since this is my first ILC compared to some of the others.
Is there any reason NOT to buy this camera that Im not aware of? I read reports of the AF not being as nimble as other cameras but I dont plan on doing much video with this at all. Its mainly for collecting memories of our family vacations and gatherings.

no reason except it could also depend if you have DSLR lens
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

 

[table1349]

Well considering that this is the OP's first interchangeable lens camera, (I don't mind typing it) I doubt that the op has to many lenses to worry about.

It's kind of like me, I like motor sports, but I don't have a set of racing tires and wheels lying around, because I don't own a race car.