is it art?

[bribrius]

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[manaheim]

Ummm... well, some would say art is subjective.

I spent the afternoon today with a woman who argued that her point of view errors in her book were a matter of artistic choice because it was a poem and she can do whatever she likes in poems.

That said, this picture just seems like an overexposed, strangely colored shot of a not overly interesting subject, composed in a not that appealing way. Some might say art has something to say, or art is something just pleasing to look at, but I don't honestly see either of those things here.

 

[bribrius]

i purposely just did this in post. Took one of my not so good shadow photos (in this case wagon wheel shadows). pp'd it for about fourty seconds. So, for the sake of it. since i did it on purpose. is it art?

 

[manaheim]

Couldn't tell you. My take would be no.

 

[bribrius]

Couldn't tell you. My take would be no.

i actually agree with you. Because me personally, i know i intentionally hacked this photo. However if i brought it down to the sidewalk art festival. And someone bought this and they considered it art. i would no longer be sure myself.

 

[Designer]

Hey, all "art" is "art" in some way, but there is a scale to it.

I think some art has to be "sold", as in; the "artist" has to attempt to convince people that his product is worthy of admiration, and indeed some people will take that testimony as "proof" that the art is worthy.

Me, I'm just a little more skeptical.

 

[bribrius]

Hey, all "art" is "art" in some way, but there is a scale to it.

I think some art has to be "sold", as in; the "artist" has to attempt to convince people that his product is worthy of admiration, and indeed some people will take that testimony as "proof" that the art is worthy.

Me, I'm just a little more skeptical.

how about price?

is price a consideration? what if this was placed in a long line of photos. Obviously this one, would stand out. If for no other reason it is surely bright. And it had a higher price tag on it. would people be more drawn to it? Then if it sold, would that make it art?

 

[charlie76]

Art is a phenomenon that humans have been trying to describe for centuries...I doubt we will get to the root of it here on the Internet forum art is an intangible energy/emotion that can be discovered accidentally or on purpose. Anyone that has ever picked up a camera has taken an "accidental" shot that came out looking great/interesting/neat-o in one way or another. Hell...my sone did some REALLY cool things when he was 7 that blew my mind. The artist/person/average Joe certainly doesn't have to intentionally create art. As soon as art is discovered...it exists....like finding buried treasure! It is then between the observer/appreciator and the medium to work out the details.

 

[rexbobcat]

I'm not sure. I guess you could argue it as "fine art," but, for me it depends on the thought process of the creator, which is often super-vague and almost impossible to truly know. You just have to take the artist at their word.

This is something that I've seen a lot in the local photo club.

There's a lot of "Well, the photo just didn't pop so I started adding filters and then put it through Nik HDR."

It kind of makes me sad because the first question to be asked at every meeting is "Is this HDR?" And not something like "How'd you get that angle?" Or something a little more substantial.

So in other words, if you had an image like this envisioned from the beginning then I would say it's art, but if you tried to make a blah photo into art after the fact then I would say it isn't...gallery-ready art.

But, once again, that's a very difficult thing to discern.

 

[bribrius]

i guess i can tell you guys why im questioning this (not to mention the other threads on it).
i saw two oil paintings this week. which were pretty decent admittedly but not overall interesting or stellar. But i was a little surprised when talking to the owner that they paid for them. The owner was discussing putting lights over them to bring them out (they are hung on walls in a building and lights on oil paintings is almost a must) while i was still trying to comprehend the financial aspect of them. They had another one as well, just of ocean. no boats, no land. just ocean waves. entire painting edge to edge just waves. Not even big waves.

Clearly the purchaser of these paintings sees them as very worthy art. How many people that go into the establishment and see them i wonder would agree? Or perhaps a viewer, just seeing them in a frame, light over them, would assume they were expensive and must be "art".

 

[Derrel]

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Makes me wanna...

 

[bribrius]

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But if it sells.....................
Does that make it even more painful to bare?

 

[Derrel]

Let us know when it "sells"....mmmkay????

 

[bribrius]

Let us know when it "sells"....mmmkay????

i sense the sarcasm. But this is where no one really knows. That is what is strange. i mean, you can cc and knock stuff on here all you want. But in the end, when it comes to it, it comes down to if someone is willing to put down money on it to buy it doesn't it? Like those paintings i mentioned above. A art critic could have cc'd them to death. But it really doesn't matter. They were sold and are hung up now with lights going over them.

 

[KmH]

10 Most Expensive Photographs in the World - FreeYork

http://www.pondly.com/2011/12/most-expensive-painting-ever-sold-jackson-pollocks-number-5/