I dont get you derrel. Fred miranda consists of some pretty talented wedding photographers. My work is sh!t compared to theirs. So yes I try my best to do similar poses like they do there. Of course everytime I post it here all you can say is my poses are sh!t like moms with cameras. Cant you bring the cool derrel out? I dont like the douche derrel.
I don't want to argue with anyone, but if somebody feels the need to criticize me or my work, I would rather they have a thread to do it instead or hijacking other threads.
Did Schwettylens start a thread about YOU on the Fred Miranda forum, to whine about you to his other e-friends??? I know he did that for me!!! lol...gotta love a 'man' who goes running to his peeps when he feels slighted...maybe you ought to kiss his hand and put a band-aid on and see if that makes him feel all better.
Schwetty,
Have you ever thought that internet forums filled with people who rail AGAINST EDUCATION, and who rail and rant AGAINST learning from acknowledged master-level photographers, might just possibly NOT BE the best place to learn the skills needed to become a "photographer". Not a digital file manipulator. Not a file processor. Not a digital capture maker. Not a camera opertator. But a real,live, working photographer!!!
I am going to put this as simply as I can for you Schwettylens: I have encouraged you to study composition. To learn how to pose people, and how to properly,expertly FRAME your poses. Not the way modern, self-taught newbies are doing it, but the way the MASTER-level, trained, studied, established professional photographers have learned works the best. You repeatedly have FAILED to get the message, and the Fred Miranda whine thread you started was you, going to another self-selected crowd, filled mostly with young, uneducated part-timers like yourself, where you tried to find a group of people to tell you that your work was "good" and that you are "doing it right".
I'm sorry Schwettylens, that you cannot understand this one simple point: "You do not even know that which you do not know." How long have you been at this? Why do you think you are so 'effin good? You are still wet behind the ears, photographically, and acting like a 33 year-old teenager.
When you learn that seeking validation of poor methods is a losing pathway, perhaps then you'll seek out a group of "mentors" who are actually educated and skilled in their field, and not simply people who can point an autofocus camera, snap pics, and then ram them thru Lightroom 3 in three hours' time. I've spent quite a bit of time writing posts here to you, as well as answering your repeated PM's. And yet, you are so blinded by pride and hubris, still UNWILLING TO ADMIT that your self-taught "this is the way to do it" results are, well, simply unacceptable to people who have training in the visual arts. You are new to photography. You've been focused on learning the mechanics, the basics. NOW, it is time to focus on your ARTISTRY--and you will NOT find that by whinging on FM Forums about people who push you to learn the most elemental aspect of good photography and of painting: COMPOSITION.
COMPOSITION. The most-effective way of seeing, according to Edward Weston. Do you even know who he is?
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