Newbie questions about lenses

[LightSpeed]

.6 of a second with IS versus 1/250 of a second with IS are worlds apart.
1/15 versus 1/200 is worlds apart. If you have no other choice but to grab shots at these very low ill advised shutter speeds while hand held, then you have to do what you have to do.
But advising that this is typical and acceptable, is quite another story.

I've never worn a bikini so I don't know how good I look in one.

 

[enzodm]

Don't canons come with IS lenses? Should be able to hand hold a pretty slow shutter speed with those I would think. I can go all the way as low .6 cause my a33 has built in IS.

If subject is moving, IS would not help. 0.6 is good, good hand more than good stabilization

 

[ConradM]

.6 of a second with IS versus 1/250 of a second with IS are worlds apart.
1/15 versus 1/200 is worlds apart. If you have no other choice but to grab shots at these very low ill advised shutter speeds while hand held, then you have to do what you have to do.
But advising that this is typical and acceptable, is quite another story.

I've never worn a bikini so I don't know how good I look in one.

I don't think anyone said typical. Just letting the OP know they can go WAY below 1/250 in low light. 1/15 - 1/25 with IS should be a snap though.

This was either with .6 or .8, I can't remember. It's a little soft, but acceptable for handheld I think.

 

[ConradM]

Don't canons come with IS lenses? Should be able to hand hold a pretty slow shutter speed with those I would think. I can go all the way as low .6 cause my a33 has built in IS.

If subject is moving, IS would not help. 0.6 is good, good hand more than good stabilization

Oh no, not at all.

 

[analog.universe]

The A33 is a mirrorless camera correct? The movement of the mirror is responsible for much of the camera shake in a dSLR... If I know I'm really pushing the limit with my shutter speed, I'll switch to live view on my 60D since the mirror is already out of the way, and only the movement of the shutter (and my hands) will shake the camera. I can get a couple more stops this way, and shoot at 1/15 or 1/20 even without IS.

(of course this is all useless with moving subjects.. standard disclaimer etc...)

 

[MLeeK]

.6 of a second with IS versus 1/250 of a second with IS are worlds apart.
1/15 versus 1/200 is worlds apart. If you have no other choice but to grab shots at these very low ill advised shutter speeds while hand held, then you have to do what you have to do.
But advising that this is typical and acceptable, is quite another story.

I've never worn a bikini so I don't know how good I look in one.

I don't think anyone said typical. Just letting the OP know they can go WAY below 1/250 in low light. 1/15 - 1/25 with IS should be a snap though.

This was either with .6 or .8, I can't remember. It's a little soft, but acceptable for handheld I think.

.8 sec exposure at ISO 400. I think I'd have raised the ISO long before I took a chance with .8 sec and the image wouldn't have been so soft.

 

[ConradM]

The A33 is a mirrorless camera correct? The movement of the mirror is responsible for much of the camera shake in a dSLR... If I know I'm really pushing the limit with my shutter speed, I'll switch to live view on my 60D since the mirror is already out of the way, and only the movement of the shutter (and my hands) will shake the camera. I can get a couple more stops this way, and shoot at 1/15 or 1/20 even without IS.

(of course this is all useless with moving subjects.. standard disclaimer etc...)

Translucent mirror.

.6 of a second with IS versus 1/250 of a second with IS are worlds apart.
1/15 versus 1/200 is worlds apart. If you have no other choice but to grab shots at these very low ill advised shutter speeds while hand held, then you have to do what you have to do.
But advising that this is typical and acceptable, is quite another story.

I've never worn a bikini so I don't know how good I look in one.

I don't think anyone said typical. Just letting the OP know they can go WAY below 1/250 in low light. 1/15 - 1/25 with IS should be a snap though.

This was either with .6 or .8, I can't remember. It's a little soft, but acceptable for handheld I think.

.8 sec exposure at ISO 400. I think I'd have raised the ISO long before I took a chance with .8 sec and the image wouldn't have been so soft.

Yeah, I forgot about the ISO. What can I saw, I was excited to photo my son sleeping on the couch. :mrgreen:

 

[Rephargotohp]

I look awful in a Bikini

This comment is worthless without a photo! Post one and let us be the judges

I don't wear Speedos, I wear Speedon'ts

We have to remember the OP wants to shoot a Small Dog, They kinda move sooooo...

 

[ConradM]

I look awful in a Bikini

This comment is worthless without a photo! Post one and let us be the judges

I don't wear Speedos, I wear Speedon'ts

We have to remember the OP wants to shoot a Small Dog, They kinda move sooooo...

I didn't catch that part. That being said, I make my dogs sit/stay when dealing with low-light.

 

[1holegrouper]

Pay the electric bill. Then your problems should be solved.


Seriously though, flash and/or strobe/continuous lighting (I really really prefer natural light whenever possible/practical) may be a necessary evil since you are dealing with moving subjects.

 

[MLeeK]

This comment is worthless without a photo! Post one and let us be the judges

I don't wear Speedos, I wear Speedon'ts

We have to remember the OP wants to shoot a Small Dog, They kinda move sooooo...

I didn't catch that part. That being said, I make my dogs sit/stay when dealing with low-light.

It's not working for you... You cannot tell me that a dog would sit and stay half as still as the sleeping baby. They twitch their heads, look at anything and everything... even if they are the best trained dogs you cannot shoot that slow.

The point is that you'd never TEACH a person to shoot that slow. You teach them the basics and then you teach to break the rules and what they need to have in order to break them. You have to have concept 1 before you can build upon it.




As for the bikini thing... I can wear one. It ain't pretty and it had better have boy shorts with major reinforcement, maybe even a skirt and a tankini top with cast iron to hold my fat rolls in.

 

[TheKenTurner]

If the picture is at f/3.5 with the kit lens, that means the picture was taken near 18mm. 50mm will be too zoomed in for you. You may want to considder a wider prime lens.

 

[ConradM]

I don't wear Speedos, I wear Speedon'ts

We have to remember the OP wants to shoot a Small Dog, They kinda move sooooo...

I didn't catch that part. That being said, I make my dogs sit/stay when dealing with low-light.

It's not working for you... You cannot tell me that a dog would sit and stay half as still as the sleeping baby. They twitch their heads, look at anything and everything... even if they are the best trained dogs you cannot shoot that slow.

The point is that you'd never TEACH a person to shoot that slow. You teach them the basics and then you teach to break the rules and what they need to have in order to break them. You have to have concept 1 before you can build upon it.




As for the bikini thing... I can wear one. It ain't pretty and it had better have boy shorts with major reinforcement, maybe even a skirt and a tankini top with cast iron to hold my fat rolls in.

What's not working for me? How slow are we talking about? This was at 1/25 -

May not be a correct exposure but this was when I first got my Sony.

 

[MLeeK]

And the only thing in SHARP focus was the carpet. You are still missing the point here, however you proved it well with this image. Like you said, it was when you first got your camera and didn't know how to get it right.
The point is that you'd never TEACH a person to shoot that slow. You teach them the basics and then you teach to break the rules and what they need to have in order to break them. You have to have concept 1 before you can build upon it.

You can and absolutely SHOULD break the rules when you need to. AFTER YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED FOR IT TO WORK AND WHY.

 

[ConradM]

And the only thing in SHARP focus was the carpet. You are still missing the point here, however you proved it well with this image. Like you said, it was when you first got your camera and didn't know how to get it right.
The point is that you'd never TEACH a person to shoot that slow. You teach them the basics and then you teach to break the rules and what they need to have in order to break them. You have to have concept 1 before you can build upon it.

You can and absolutely SHOULD break the rules when you need to. AFTER YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED FOR IT TO WORK AND WHY.

It's in focus though right? If a complete noob shooting in manual can take a picture of two dogs in low light then why can't anybody?

lol, I don't understand why you're getting so upset. I've heard that you shouldn't shoot slower than your focal length, but like I said before, I don't see the big deal going down to 1/15 with IS.