What's new

Working out aperture diameter

Goldcoin79

TPF Noob!
Joined
May 23, 2012
Messages
152
Reaction score
2
Location
Uk, Hemel Hempstead
Can others edit my Photos
Photos OK to edit
I am aware that to work out the aperture diameter you use focal lengh/f number but on my camera which is a Canon sx30 is, it tells me the focal lengh is 4.3-150mm and 35mm equivelant is 24-840mm. What value do I use the 4.3-150mm or the 35mm equivelant and why?

The sensor size is 1/2.3" (6.17 x 4.55mm) if that is needed to explain it.

James
 
You use the real focal lengths -- no the 35mm equivalent. The "equivalent" measurements are there for comparison purposes.

If you're shooting at 9mm (which, on your camera would be roughly equivalent to a 50mm focal length on a 35mm film camera or full-frame camera) and you're at f/4, then the aperture is 2.25mm wide. 9 ÷ 4 = 2.25
 
You can probably judge the approximate diameter of the entrance pupil* by looking into the front of the lens when the shutter is open - I can certainly do that with my S95 when set to a long exposure time. It's so small that it would be difficult to measure, but at least you will get an idea of what ball park the result of the calculation should be in, and it would certainly demonstrate that you should be using the actual focal length rather than the (often misleading) 35 mm equivalent. You can do this experimental determination of entrance pupil diameter will almost all lenses, of course.

*The image of the hole made by the aperture blades; the entrance pupil diameter is the value used in the common formula for f-number.

Best,
Helen
 
Thank for the information. What is the reason that the camera lens gives the 35mm equivalent?
 
Thank for the information. What is the reason that the camera lens gives the 35mm equivalent?

That's just for allowing you to do an "apples to apples" comparison when shopping.

Cameras have different physical sensor sizes. For example... if I put a 50mm lens on a "full frame" DSLR and take a photo, then move that SAME 50mm lens to an APS-C crop-frame DSLR camera, and take a photo of the same subject from the same location (without moving the camera), the resulting image will appear as though I've zoomed in.... some 50-60% closer, in fact.

So simply stating a lenses "true" focal length can result in wildly different results if you do not ALSO know the physical sensor size of the camera.

For examples of sensor sizes, see: Digital Camera Sensor Sizes: How it Influences Your Photography

To help provide a common frame of reference for comparisons, lots of companies provide the "35mm equivalent" because it was the dominant camera type for so many years that it can be used for comparison purposes.

Your camera tells you that it has a 4.3-150mm zoom lens. But that wont give you any idea of what the images will look like because you don't know how big the sensor is. They could tell you how big the sensor is (and they do) but then you'd have to know how to do the math. Instead... they just tell you that "if this were a 35mm camera, then you'd need a zoom lens that goes from 24mm-840mm in order to have the same wide-angle to zoom magnification range."

You could then move on to some other camera and it might have a completely different lens. But if it doesn't have a sensor size identical to your SX30, then the lens size would be meaningless because you still wouldn't know roughly how much "wide angle" or "telephoto zoom" available. If, however, they ALSO state their "35mm equivalent"... well now you have a common frame of reference. Now you can do an apples to apples comparison and realize that camera 'b' has a lens that can do a bit more "wide angle" but maybe not as much "telephoto".
 
Thank I can now understand. The sensor size is 1/2.3" (6.17 x 4.55mm) and it is a bridge camera so the lense can't be removed.

Thanks for all the advice given.
 
You might also want to consider that the lens opening area is what really matters, not the lens opening diameter.
 
Won't the lens opening area be dependent on diameter eg larger diameter larger opening area.
 
Kmh, I think you meant diameter not area in your last sentence...
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account on our community. It's easy!

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

New Topics

Back
Top Bottom