Advice on a few cameras

Discussion in 'Digital Discussion & Q&A' started by officersdr, May 27, 2006.

  1. officersdr

    officersdr TPF Noob!

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    I'm looking at getting a new digital camera. I have a few that I like. What I want is at least a 7MP camera with good zoom ( 10-12X optical ) and My budget is around 800max CAD. I would like a 2.5" LCD but it's not a deal breaker. I'm leaning towards the advanced point/shoot models because I wouldn't have to buy different lens, like i would for DSLR. Here are some camera's I have been looking at.

    Kodak P880 - http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/kodakp880/

    Panasonic DMC-FZ30 - http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicfz30/

    Panasonic DMC-FZ7 - http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicfz7/

    Sony DSC-H5 - http://www.dpreview.com/news/0602/06022509sonydsch5.asp


    I'm leaning towards the Sony Because of the price (599 CAD ). it has the zoom & MP I want but no hot shoe. plus a 3" LCD. I looked on ebay and I can get a bracket for a external flash. I like the Panasonic but I;m not sure about the quality.....It has the zoom & MP plus the hot shoe, The down side is that it's 100 bucks more than my max. Gimmy all your feedback....good bad & ugly
     
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    Physical sensor-size is really as significant as number of MP...
    also in what frequency those pixel-receptors are arrayed over the sensor. A Canon or Nikon DSLR (with a kit lens included in the deal) is a safe choice. These makes have good sensor sizes and specs, as well as good optics. Many other digital cameras have sensors which just don't cut the mustard and are a waste of money if you want to avhieve more than average results. Better to have 6 MP and a decent-sized chip than 7,8+ MP with a small sensor. Visit http://www.dpreview.com look at a Canon or Nikon DSLR and view its 'Specifications' page in its review. Note the sensor-sizes and then compare with other makes (if they even bother to inform buyers about what size sensor they use).
     
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    The camera is going to come with a lens anyway.. and you are going to pay for it, so I think it's better to have one where there is the option to remove it if you want to. Forgive me if DLSRs are beyond your 800 CAD budget. I'm not familiar with how much 800 CAD is.
     
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    Dont get the p850 as it has embarrassingly sub-steller photos at night time. it goes beyond noise and is infact shear vandalism on the sensor's part.

    The sony h5 produces great colours etc.

    The panasonics in that list are not really in the same category as those other two. the fz30 is good, isnt it, holly?
     
  5. officersdr

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    I'm leaning more towards the sony or the fz30...they have the zoom I want with out having to get another lens.

    I'll check about the sensors
     
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    I don't see anything about the sensor....if you know somewhere i could find it, it would help
     
  7. Don Simon

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    As I understand it there's not that much difference at all between the sensor size in various compact digitals (like all those you're looking at). 2framesbelowzero was mentioning sensor size as a reason for choosing a dSLR over one of those cameras - then there really is a difference in sensor size and design.
     
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    hmmm..

    well the FZ30 I see has the word Leica on it which is good for morale.
    It has a 3:2 ratio option which I would prefer to 4:3.
    I like the look of the build . Sensor 1/1.8".
    Shoots from 1/60th sec to 1/2000th. Has RAW & TIFF capability...
    Lens 2.8 at the fast end.
    ISO info ?
    8.3 MP

    The H5
    3:2 ratio option
    ISO 80-1000
    1/2.5" sensor
    Carl Zeiss lens...
    Start-up time 1sec (vs H2's 5 seconds ..ouch!)
    7.2 MP
    Shutter speeds ?

    it's a tough-one - the Lumix looks a better camera,
    but it's got the smaller sensor. (1/1.8" Is smaller than 1/2.5" right ?)


    Also, I notice its 'shooting modes:'
    Shooting mode
    • Program (with shift)
    • Aperture Priority
    • Shutter Priority
    • Manual
    • Macro
    • Moving Image
    • Portrait
    • Sports
    • Scenery
    • Night Scenery
    • Night Portrait
    • Fireworks
    • Party
    • Snow
    • Self-Portrait
    • Food
    • Baby
    • Soft Skin
    • Candle
    • Starry Sky
    • AE compensation -2.0EV to +2.0 EV in 1/3EV steps
    • Auto bracketing


    lol

    I think they missed out

    Old Skool Electro and...
    Bossa Nova


    I just threw some old chicken bones up in the air, and when they landed in the dirt I divined that I would save a bit more money and buy a DLSR.

    ..or at least find out what shutter-speeds are available on the Sony H5.
     
  9. officersdr

    officersdr TPF Noob!

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    this is what I found when searching the net

    Key FeaturesImage Sensor TypeCCD #160;
    Resolution7.2 Megapixel #160;
    Optical Zoom12x #160;
    Camera TypeStandard Point and Shoot LensInterchangeable LensWithout Interchangeable Lens #160;
    Optical Zoom12x #160;
    35mm Zoom Lens36 - 432 mm #160;
    Digital Zoom4x #160;
    Focus TypeAutofocus & Manual Focus #160;
    Focus Range19.7 in. (w) #160;
    Macro Focus Range.74 in. (w) #160;
    Focal Length6 - 72 mm Image QualityCamera Resolution7.2 Megapixel VideoVideo Resolutions640 x 480 (VGA) • 160 x 112 #160;
    Video Speed30 fps #160;
    Video FormatMPEG Exposure ControlAperture Rangef8 (t) - f2.8/f3.7 (w/t) #160;
    Shutter Speed.25 - 1/2000 sec #160;
    White BalanceAuto • Manual • Daylight / Sunny (Preset) • Cloudy (Preset) • Fluorescent (Preset) • Incandescent (Preset) • Flash (Preset) #160;
    Frames Per Second1.4 Frames StorageMemory TypeBuilt-in • Memory Stick Duo • Memory Stick Pro #160;
    Built-in Memory Size32 #160;
    Compression ModesFine • Normal #160;
    Compression TypeJPEG FlashISO SpeedsAuto • 100 • 200 • 400 • 800 • 80 • 1000 #160;
    Flash FunctionsAuto Flash • Fill-in Flash • Red-eye Reduction Flash • Slow Sync Viewfinder / DisplayLCD PanelWith LCD Panel #160;
    LCD Panel Size2 in. #160;
    LCD Screen Resolution201,000 pixels #160;
    LCD Protected PositionWithout LCD Protected Position InterfacesInterface TypeUSB 2.0 #160;
    Video InterfaceVideo Out Included FeaturesSelf Timer2 Sec. • 10 Sec. #160;
    Built-in MicrophoneWith Built-in Microphone #160;
    Built-in SpeakerWith Built-in Speaker System RequirementsOperating SystemApple Mac OS 9 • Apple Mac OS X • Microsoft Windows ME • Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition • Microsoft Windows XP Professional DimensionsWidth4.44 in. #160;
    Depth3.69 in. #160;
    Height3.25 in. #160;
    Weight0.9 lb.
     
  10. PopPicker

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    I have the FZ30 and it's a briliant piece of engineering.

    I can heartily recommend it.

    The reason I bought it are:-

    12x zoom at 8mp
    15x zoom at 5mp
    19x zoom at 3 mp

    Swing out LCD and turn-aroundable out of harms way

    OIS image staibiliser

    Flash shoe

    Excellent veiwfinder

    Pefect one handed stable operation

    Sharp

    The best manual focusing I've found

    Excellent macro AF and manual focus.


    PP
     
  11. benhasajeep

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    Of the 4 choices given. I vote for the Panasonic FZ-30. I think it has the best lens out of the 4. According to the spec's has a 55mm thread. So it can also use standard filters without adapters. Thats a big plus in my book. The Sony seems to have a larger ISO range, but Sony memory stick is a minus, as I am not sure anything esle but Sony products use them.
     
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    One thing to note about the FZ30: there is a lot of noise.

    I had an FZ20 that I really liked, it also produced quite the noisy image. I looked into upgrading when the FZ30 when introduced only to find an even noisier image! Plus, the FZ20 was 2.8 throughout the entire 12x zoom range, the FZ30 is not. I suggest if you like the look of that camera, buy a FZ20 used. :mrgreen:
     

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