well, found out im going to have to take the ISO compensation off my d40 bc even set at 200 it seems it always wants to bump it up more than needed and i get noise. heres the album link, theres a couple of swan/geese airlie pictures by Dubkota - Photobucket anyways, heres the best i could get these. lighting was pretty harsh seems when i take one step forward, i take another step back. im not too happy with these, but what do you think? other than noise. particularities i need to work on also, im come far too familiar with how limited the 18-55 and now cannot wait to get the finances to get a 70-300 or the like... just cant get close to birds, etc for a good enough shot.