EOS 5D - Royal Mail Scam

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  1. Nicolas Alary

    Nicolas Alary TPF Noob!

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    Hi guys !

    Just wanted to share with you a scam experience.

    I had found an EOS 5D in mint condition + vertical grip for 1300$ on Craig's List. I contacted the seller, asking him a lots of questions to be sure everything is as mint as he said it was, well, so far everything was good, i was convinced that I was doing an excellent deal ! Then I received an invoice from the Liverpool Royal Mail post office saying that the package was ready to be shipped and that now I had to make the payment so that it can be shipped. The payment had to be done thanks to Wester Union to the account of a pretented employe of the Post Office. The invoice can be found here. You can actualy try the tracking number, it's working.

    Then Jim (the scammer) E-mailed me to tell me that he went to the post office and that every thing was ok, that I just had to make the payment. He gave me the same tracking number than the one in the invoice and a link to the traking page : http://www.liverpool-royalmail.com/transactions/trackpackage.html

    Something was tickling me because the adress of the tracking page started by LIVERPOOL which sounded a bit akward to me. So I tried the same serial number on the Royal Mail website, the one you find on Google and there my tracking number was not working it had to star with 2 letters and mine was starting with a number. So I decided to call Royal Mail, trying to explain my problem with my lame Frenchy English and the guy on the phone told me that my tracking number was not valid and that they was no other website than http://www.royalmail.com.

    Then I made a quick research on google and found that this liverpool website was a fake one hosted in germany created in nomvember of this year. (http://escrow-fraud.com/fraud_data.php?id=5350)

    I contacted Jim Howe to let him know that I was aware of the scam and I never heard about him again...

    I just wanted to warn you so that you can dodge the trap :)

    Nico
     
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    celler TPF Noob!

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    I hate to hear of someone being scammed. Remember, if it sounds too good to be true........
     
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    Merci bien, Nicolas! Thanks for the heads-up on this scammer!
     
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    Thanks for letting us all know!
    I hate scammers and asif your not gunna make sure everything is legit with that amount of money.
     
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    Yep, I've ran into several of these actually. The 1st one was actually pretty close I almost sent the money but a few things seemed iffy. 1st off it was Western Union and also I did the same thing. Instead of Royal Mail it was TNT and when I went to TNT's official website the tracking number didn't work.
    Here are the camera's/prices and my responses :D

    1st was a EOS 1D Mark II for $650. I found out about the scam but the person didn't know I knew about it so I played along. I ended up sending them monopoly money. Twice as much actually, stating the extra money was for 2nd day air delivery (inside joke, some scammers have sent me this)

    2nd was a Nikon D2x for $610 and as soon as he told me he was in London for a business trip I replied, jokingly, "are you scamming me?"

    3rd was a 30D with 28-135 IS lens for $500. Same thing he told me he was in London so I replied something along the lines of: "That's perfect! I am going to London next weekend on a business trip myself. Perhaps we can meet and deal in person."

    Of course I've got no replies from any of these to this point :p
     
  6. Nicolas Alary

    Nicolas Alary TPF Noob!

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    Hahahahah ! Excellent one ! I should have done something like that !
     
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    Alex_B No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    wow, that scammer uses my proivider ;)
     
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    Never pay for anything through Western Union...it is always a scam. Western Union should only be used by family members. There is unfortunately no insurance or way to track the money through Western Union.
     
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    goddddddddddddddd

    i wish i could have stumbled across this yesterday. i completely fell for this 1,300$ 5d junk.

    do you guys think there is anything i might be able to do?
     
  10. Nicolas Alary

    Nicolas Alary TPF Noob!

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    Oh man I'm sorry ! Maybe you should contact Wester Union to ask them to block the money transfer. If you need a hand to prove that is a scam maybe the fact that the same thing almost happened to me could be a piece of evidence. Just let me know.
     
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    yeah, i try to shy away from doing international purchases... you HAVE to keep your eyes open
     
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    I'm a bit surprised anyone got scammed on CraigsList. As the purpose of CraigsList.org is like a free local newspaper advertisment. To do business face-to-face where you get to handle the merchandise and fondle the cash plus avoid shipping and packing fees plus the wait.

    I've made some large purchases (over $1000) through CL. Having to drive an hour or less makes the whole purchase/sale exercise safe for both parties. On occasion we have met in a parking lot halfway between us to lessen driving distance. But scam on CL? No more than getting scammed in a retail store do to a lack of product knowledge.
     
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