feeling cheap with digital?

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  1. DIRT

    DIRT TPF Noob!

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    hello, i was wondering if anyone else felt as i do on this. i got my 10D d-slr a few months ago and have been shooting like a freak and i love it. I am getting great images and i get a lot of good shots relatively quickly with only minor adjustments in PS. But i feel kind of like im being cheap or something, its like i am getting good stuff with little effort. whereas with film I would have to process and print and dodge/burn etc. i felt like i earned it. I dont know, i just was wondering if anyone else felt like this. sorry for the ranting.
     
  2. PreludeX

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    ya, thats why i choose film over digital... although i shoot some digital... i feel more like a photographer when shooting film
     
  3. skiboarder72

    skiboarder72 No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    <---- doesnt have the money for film so he has a cheap digi camera :D
     
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    i understand what you are talking about, i also feel like my shot selection is careless because i can look and see if i like it right away and if i dont then i keep shooting. when i use film i am much more thoughtful of my shots, i feel i think them out more, plan compositions better and take the time to look what is going on in the frame. digital is nice but my heart is with film.
     
  5. DocFrankenstein

    DocFrankenstein Clinically Insane?

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    Can you post your 3 best shots on 10D which were so easy to achieve, that you need more challenge for yourself?

    Just curious
     
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    I had this same convresation with my husband. I am brand new to photography before my digital camera I had a point and shoot film camera. Nor do I know how to develope film myself. My husband however used to be a photojournalist for the mititary, used a film SLR camera, and can do all his own developing.

    He was looking through some of my pictures and we came to a conclusion that photography with film will probably become obsolite over the next few years.

    With a film SLR he would have to set up the shot, adjust all his setting manually, then after taking the shot, go into the darkroom and develope the film. After all that he gets to see if the shot even turned ut the way he wanted it too.

    With a digital however the same complex shots are just seconds away. I just set the camera settings (apeture priority, shutter priority, ect..), set up for my shot, click, then view. That simple.

    As a beginner that is all I know. Digital technology has definatley made it easier for people that can't afford school (to learn how to process film), all the extra equipment that comes with SLR's, and don't have room to set up a darkroom/studio.

    I don't think it is a matter of becoming lazy with photography persay. I believe that it just helps sharpen you eye for photography.......
     
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    There is a good chance you're shooting the way you've always. Old habits die hard and your way of "seeing" hasn't changed. Its just that you get to shoot more faster.

    I found that "cheap" feeling came from only having to print the images I knew I liked. It was like knowing which images worked on film and saying "only develop those ones". Knowing that you can shoot a whole "roll" and find out right away whether they were crap or not takes a weight off your shoulders. You still have to set the shot up, but you can take 20 or more images to make sure you got exactly what you need.

    Remember that a person that couldn't shoot well before will still fail to shoot well after going digital. That's not to say they can't improve. Its mainly to say that on their own, they probably won't (which is why forums like this are so important).

    Unless I was actually experimenting with new techniques or the images where nothing but junk (most images fall into the "in need of a purpose" catagory), I keep every image I shoot (the good and the not-so-good).

    Only your tools have changed. The person behind the camera is the same...and you'll still have to work for that image you'll be proud to show.
     
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    i agree with what you say. when i shoot film, i put effort into, im careful not to waste shots, and when it comes back and you throw a saturated color slide on the wall, there is absolutely nothing like it.
    with digital, people shoot 1000s of photos and get one good one, then show ot off and think they are the man.

    ill stop now.
     
  9. Big Mike

    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    The camera is just a tool with the means to create a photo.

    Do you think that carpenters feel cheap when they first used a power saw? Do you think less of a table because the carpenter used a power saw and a power drill to make it? I don't...I might appreciate the effort if it had been completely hand made, but that does not make it a better table.

    There are still carpenters using hand saws and there are still photographers using b&w film and doing their own developing. Digital is not cheating...it's just the latest tool.
     
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    then everyone should dump photoshop and learn to shot it the way its supposed to be shot ;) and not use photoshop to alter things.... thats IMO
     
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    Photoshop doesn't change the way things are supposed to be shot. Photoshop doesn't change the amount of effort that should be put into a photograph. Photoshop doesn't make bad photos good.
     
  12. thomash

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    Yeah I try to use Photoshop as little as possible. Makes me feel stupid when I have to make a photo look nice through digital processing.

    The thing I miss most about film is you shoot a whole film, bring it to the development place and you can't wait to get there the next day and pick it up. It's a really nice surprise when you get a film back that's got a few really nice shots in it. This whole surprise element gets cut out with digital. It always felt a bit like the excitement before Christmas when I was a kid.

    Thomas
     

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