Well ok, I took a step from spiders and flowers and tried people. The following were shot f4, 400 iso, 1/200s, natural lighting only from right side and some pp from RAW. I used a 35-85mm lens on my canon rebel. I'm not happy with the background but its my first, I have since updated it. I need to know opinions from others as these 2 "Love" their shots. I do know I have a ways to go. 1. 2. 3. 4.