I ventured into my first photography store in 30 years was showed a DSLR and was told that basically all the cameras come with a 18-55mm (or there abouts) zoom kit lens. I'm also interested in getting a longer zoom, Pentax has a 70 to 300mm, it looks as though the major players have this as well - again these are kit lenses. How bad optically are they? For me, an amateur not looking to make money on it - are they that bad? When I bought my camera years ago I settled on Vivtar lenses because they were decent and cost about 1/3 of what Nikon lenses were. I go onto the internet to research the lenses and it seems that whatever I look at the reviewer have bad things to say about them. I looked at Nikon mostly but 18-55, 55-200, 70-300, 18-200 all have "issues". I understand that a $200 lens should not be as good as a $1600 lens but are they a waste of money? I would like to hear from all camera people not just Nikon people. Thanks in advance for any in-site.