I went to a flea market and found these 2 TLR's

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  1. jeroen

    jeroen No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    We went to a flea market yesterday. I was hoping to find a nice medium format camera like a Rollei or maybe a Mamiya or something like that. (One can always hope :blushing:) I came home with this pair though :D

    The first thing I found was this cute little plastic/aluminum 1950's Argus Super 75.

    It has a 65mm f8 (!) lens. It has 3 f-stops; f8, f11 and f16. There are instructions inside the viewer cover what stop to use in what weather condition. Shutterspeed is fixed (don't know how fast, I found some info on the net that it's somewhere between 1/30 and 1/50) or what would be "bulb".

    It seems to be in perfect condition and I payed € 15,- for it.

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    Secondly, my heart missed a beat because my first thought was that I found my Rollei, but it turned out to be something else. Since the brand/light meter cover is missing I had no idea what I bought. But it appears to be a 1958 Minolta Autocord LMX.

    The focus lever button is also broken off but the lever itself is still usable. Also the light meter is dead but that is no wonder after 50 years. Still, it seems to be working perfectly fine. It has a 75mm f3.5 lens and I payed € 50,- for it.

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    If anyone has more info on these, I would love to hear it.
     
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    compur No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Your Autocord has a fine lens -- comparable to to the Schndeider Xenar and
    Zeiss Tessar lenses found on some Rolleiflex cameras. Many say it is even
    better. This camera is also just about as sought-after as the basic Rolleiflex
    models. In mint condition they can fetch $200-$300 or more, the same price
    range as the Rolleiflex Automat cameras.

    The broken focus lever on the Autocord is fairly common on some of these
    cameras as it was not very sturdy on some models. I sold one with the same
    fault recently on eBay as a "fixer-upper" and it went for over $100 "as is."
     
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    benhasajeep TPF Noob!

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    Hey cool an Argus. Their HQ was about 3 blocks from my house when I was growing up. Would walk or ride my bike past it on the way to downtown Ann Arbor, MI. They had already given up on cameras by then though. But the building is still called the Argus building and had some extensive remodeling done while I was in high school to. I had no clue who or what they used to be until later on.
     
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    Here's a website describing the restoration of the focusing lever on your Autocord:

    CLICK
     
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    Mitica100 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Also some notes on disassembly from Rick Oleson's site:

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    Mitica100 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    And if you want to have someone else look at it and repair it:

    karl.kathy@verizon.net

    Check with Karl for rates. I don't know if he can address the meter but that's not vital, is it?
     
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    jeroen No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Thanks for the comments :)

    I shot a roll of 120 film with the Autocord today in the park using my dSLR's lightmeter for reference. I can pick up the negatives next week.

    I'm afraid it does need a bit of restauration. The mechanism needs cleaning and although I can see a sharp image through the viewer, the focussing scale is way off. I have two left hands so all I can do is ruin my camera. But I also found an address of a specialized company that can do it for a reasonable price.

    I'll keep you posted :)
     
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    Proteus617 TPF Noob!

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    The Argus 75 is a fun camera. The shutters are a bit stiff and tend to jerk the camera sideways. Careful bracing can result in surprisingly good photos.
     
  9. jeroen

    jeroen No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I shot a roll of b&w film before I send my Autocord to a restorer yesterday. This is my favorite from the roll.

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    jeroen No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Here's one more. I have a roll of Kodachrome ready for when I get my camera back from restauration.

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    I love the camera.....I think you should take pics OF it)))) but not with it..lol

    It's like a piece of art) But I like your shots too)) did you photoshop them or changed colors.....what's the original color? because the fisrt shot seems a bit brownish))
     
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    I got my Autocord back from CLA and I shot a film with it that I should get back in a few days. The guy that CLA'ed it also made a new focussing knob and fixed the lightmeter. How cool is that?
    I'll post some results when I have my film back.

    In the meantime... I am afraid I have a new hobby in collecting old camera's. The "film" camera market seems to be so dead that one can buy mint conditioned oldtimers for just a few bucks at the moment. It appears to be the perfect moment to start a fresh collection.
     

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