Looks more real this time....end of HIE

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  1. terri

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    ...farewell, my love. Best stuff EVER!
     
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    November 2, 2007

    KODAK is preannouncing the discontinuance of several smaller running families of Professional film - EPR, EPN and High Speed Infrared (HIE) effective end of December 2007. Demand for these products has been declining significantly in recent years, and it is no longer practical to continue to manufacture given the low volume, the age of the product formulations and the complexity of the processes involved.

    We will continue to ship product through the end of this year.

    These discontinuances are effective in all countries worldwide, with one exception: KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 64 Film / EPR will continue to ship to Japan beyond 2007.

    Product CAT No.
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 64 Film / EPR 120 8350498
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 64 Film / EPR 135-36 8657124
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 64 Film / EPR / 6117 / 10 sh 4 x 5 in 1604719
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 64 Film / EPR / 6117 / 10 sh 8 x 10 in 1225341
    The suggested replacement for KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 64 Film / EPR is
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film E100G or E100GX.

    Product CAT No.
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 100 Film / EPN 120 8669467
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 100 Film / EPN 135-36 8004103
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 100 Film / EPN / 10 sh 4 x 5 in 1404474
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 100 Film / EPN / 50 sh 4 x 5 in 1489822
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 100 Film / EPN / 10 sh 8 x 10 in 1767276
    The suggested replacement for KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 100 Film / EPN is KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film E100G or
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME 100 Plus Film / EPP.

    Product CAT No.
    KODAK PROFESSIONAL High-Speed Infrared Film / 135-36 8101529
     
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    If you enjoy any of these, go buy some and put it in the freezer. When you want to use it, I've found that a day thawing in the refrigerator and then a day at room temperature is the best way to bring it back from storage.

    Since it's sealed, there should be no ill effects.

    Less radical is just keep it in the refrigerator, which should give you many years of vintage film.

    What's next. Will labs stop processing this and you'll have to find some special place to mail it, for an increased price?
     
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    I'll be content processing it on my own. I'll do a better job and not worry about someone opening the cannister under the lights by mistake. ;)

    I'll be getting a small stockpile, to be sure, so I can continue to play with it for another few years.

    But may I just say...... bastards!!! :x

    Thanks, I feel better.
     
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    I read about this yesterday. I damn near cried about them discontinuing Ektachrome.

    Ektachrome 64 was my one true love. :'(
    I hate E100. It's too weird
     
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    The word about the end of HIE was real enough back in May, but Kodak's PR people denied it. The loss of HIE is a great shame, but I think that Kodak should be praised for keeping it going for so long.

    Best,
    Helen
     
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    I agree in spirit, Helen. ;) I'm ranting because they denied it so vehemently back in May. Truly, it would have been better to just own it then. :thumbdown:

    It IS a shame, for there is no other film out there quite like it. I hope to be able to play with it a few more years, anyway.
     
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    Have a few rolls of both HIR & EIR on ice any offers?
     
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    I do know that the photo store down the street has a heft supply of HIE left. Maybe I should go buy it out and mess around, before I can't anymore.

    I went yesterday and bought all their Ektachrome 64T in 120 roll. A good purchase.

    Can I shoot HIE with a standard 25A red filter? On Kodak's website it says I need a gelatin filter. I have no idea what the difference is.
     
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    I don't think that Ektachrome 64T (EPY) is being discontinued. That is a very useful film for both tungsten and daylight, with an 85B filter.

    Yes, you can shoot HIE with a red 25 filter. A lot of people do, because you can see through it. The old designation for a Wratten 25 was a Wratten A, a 29 was an 'F'. I think that Kodak only refer to gelatin filters because their Wratten line are commonly used for reference, and the spectral properties of a Wratten filter are known and standardised. The same cannot be said for other manufacturers who use Wratten numbers loosely at times. However, it should not be a problem. It is just Kodak being as accurate as they can be.

    I've just checked with B&H. They have over 1000 rolls of HIE available now, at $12.95 per roll.

    Best,
    Helen
     
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    Freestyle also appears to have plenty in stock right now.

    I would imagine it will be widely available for several more weeks; eventually the world's HIE die-hards will have it snatched up and in storage - then it will be ebay (which I wouldn't bother with). ;)

    Get it while you can, if you want it, folks.
     
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    Oh ****. This stuff is too expensive to stockpile. Not fair. And I have too many other things to stockpile. I'm gonna have to triage.

    Which one stays...HIE or AZO?
     

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