LOTR question

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  1. luckydog

    luckydog TPF Noob!

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    Episode 1: The fellowship of the ring.

    Why when Gandalf is leading the band of merry men across the mountain do they all struggle waist deep in snow while Legolas walks on top of it?? He may be an Elf and be fleet of foot but if anyone could walk on snow it should be the Hobbit's with their snowshoe sized feet.

    Why????

    P.S. I saw the LOTR exhibition in Singapore and totally enjoyed it, so if it heads your way pay a visit. I wanted to pinch the shards of Narsil and a model Gollum but they wouldn't fit in my pockets :(
     
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    manda instigator of pottymouthedness

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    I did actually know the answer to this. It was explained in the DVDs.
    SOmething to do with him being magical and elvish.
    Its the same thing with how Aragorn adn the rest look filthy and gross and he never has a hair out of place or a streak of dirt on his face.

    He's an elf!

    Wow, I wonder if that will come to Sydney anytime soon!!!
     
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    mmmm, because he was an Elf and didn't have to walk through the snow....the hobbits may have had the big feet, but they were also stout little creatures and probably would sink like a stone in water.

    More to the point, in the company of Gandalf the Grey, who happened to be a wizard, why did he choose to keep his wizardry in check and MAKE them all walk? It has more to do with him wanting his band to have a physical appreciation of the hardships they were going to endure ahead of them, I'm thinking. Perhaps the Elf had a better appreciation of it and G left him alone. :?:
     
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    Because all magic has a cost, and the bigger the magic the bigger the cost. Plus it would draw Sauron's eye.
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Finally, a subject on this forum where I actually know what I'm talking about. :wink:
     
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    Mark: we basically said the same thing, honey. :wink:

    BigMike: :LOL: You know more than you think you do.
     
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    I took "apreciation" to mean that Gandalf could easily have done it, but he wanted the others to build up some sort of moral fiber or something. I meant that using magic here would not have been worth the risks involved or the drain on Gandalf's resources, rather than it being a form of boot camp for the trials ahead.

    In the book, Caradhras, the mountain itself, was preventing the fellowship from ascending it's face, not Saruman's interference. If I remember right, they wanted to see if they could get by without Caradhras getting too ornery, which meant being very unobtrusive. It didn't work, and by that point, using magic would have been extremely treacherous, considering the force of the storm and the power Caradhras could unleash.
     
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    That's how I recall it....I didn't express it very well, but I meant they were going to have to do things withOUT the benefit of having the wizard at hand, ie, calling upon magic to transport them, or do anything that would make them visible or put them at risk....so yes, we were in essence saying the same thing. :p
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Another point might be that Gandalf would or could not use his magic directly against Caradhras. Lets say he did use a magical fire to melt the snow and then it snowed harder. It would become an escalating battle between Gandalf and Caradhras (whom some consider to be an incarnate Maiar spirit).

    Gandalf and the other Istari were forbidden from matching power with power in their endeavors. Saruman of course was corrupted and did not follow this rule.


    Then again...here is what Gandalf says...
     
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    Thanks Mike. That's what I was trying to express.
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Aww...Thanks Terri, :oops:
     
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    I love in the film how McKelland says "We must take the pass of Caradhras."

    OK, all youpointy eared fans...

    Check this out. Ive been laughing for 2 days. On my forum, there are 3 of us that love LOTR. Its me, an american girly and one pommie boy. the american girly and i always swoon over legoals and girly made a comment to pommie boy about him being elf like and he replied
    "I am no woodland elf!" I then made that his status and requested that he, being a guitarist and musician, make us a song called Im no woodland elf" as a joke.

    The next day I returned to find that he had actually recorded us the song. Its too funny. If you're a fan, you should download it and listen. It doesnt take long.

    Right click and save the "I need to get out more" link after you go to this page
    http://www.lyptonvillage.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=373
     

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