need lense advice

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  1. jwsciontc

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    so my xsi is on its way, but i am looking at zoom lenses to go with it. I will be using it to shoot marching band, soccer games mostly, maybe some beach things in the summer.

    Iwas first focused on the 55-250 but have steered away from its "kit lense quality". I then looked at the 70-300 and felt it it was just a tad better than the 55-250. The most recent focus has been the 70-200 f4l non is lense. the price is a tad steep, but used is just under 500. However, i am worried that the zoom will not be enough?

    Basically I am asking you guys to recommend a zoom lense for under $600, basically in between the 55-250 and the 70-200 f4 quality wise. Keeping my eye on the 70-300 4-5.6 is AF lense though

     
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    if you can swing the L lens, do that.
     
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    from all the reviews i have read thus far, the 70-200 is used more for wildlife and stuff liek that, and the 70-300 for sports, which is my main thing. the extra 100mm is also very convincing. I'm an amateur at best, so i'm thinkin an L lense isn't really necessary right now.

    I've been shopping around, and there are a handful of 70-300's on ebay for great prices
     
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    the 70-300s have a longer focal range yes which is better for sports and wildlife (they have very similar requirements) but they are more budget line lenses - which means although your getting 300mm, your not getting high end results which can mean when pushed with longer distance shooting the weaker lenses just don't hold up.
    Now a 70-200mm is really a bit short for proper wildife, but the 70-200mm f4 L (heck the whole 70-200mm L line) is a very sharp lens. In time get yourself a 1.4* teleconverter which will work with the 70-200mm, giving you something-280mm range (almost a 300mm) and also with almost no loss of quality to shooting without the teleconverter.
    I find my 70-200mm a great lens for zoos and such where you can eliminate the range problem with much of wildlife and also the changing sizes and distances at a zoo favours zoom lenses. After that I intend to get a 300mm prime (an f4 or f2.8 is good - I aim for the f2.8) which will be the main wildlife lens proper.
     
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    yeah im on a pretty tight budget. 500 max i wanna say
     
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    i believe the 70-300mm is actually a pretty expensive piece of glass. definately more then 500.

    Edit: in american dollars its about 500, canada its around 600 or 700.
     
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    If budget is a really big concern I would not hesitate to get the EF 70 - 300 f/4.5-5.6 IS USM. For the money it is a very sharp lens when you do your part, its limitation would be that it is a slow lens ( aperture).
    here are some examples of its capabilities.
    FWIW I still have mine even tho I have better lenss in that range. I keep it because it does well when you want something light for travel.

    Examples

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    A fast moving object example
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    Moving object in a low light situation
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    Again under rather poor lighting and cropped which will really show flaws
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    If these are ecceptable to you ...go on and get the 70-300
     
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    nice nice, i think i can settle with those, are any of those at full 300mm?
     
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    most except the first
    here is the exif for the eagle

    File Name: Eagle066.jpg (rename) .jpgok cancel

    File Size: 278 kb
    Camera Make: Canon
    Camera Model: Canon EOS 10D
    Date/Time: 2007:07:07 14:19:47
    Resolution: 534 x 800
    Flash Used: No
    Focal Length: 300.0mm (35mm equivalent: 476...
    CCD Width: 22.67mm
    Exposure Time: 0.0056 s (1/180)
    Aperture: f/5.6
    ISO Equiv.: 400
    Whitebalance: Auto
    Metering Mode: matrix
     
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    The 70-200 f/4 is amazing. I've used one and the files came out a bit crisper than my 70-200 f/2.8 IS. Plus it has the USM focusing motor. It's fast enough for me to track motorcycles flying by at 90mph on a 30D, so it should do what you need it too.
     
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    how does that motor compare to the 70-300's? i heard the 70-300's is pretty slow
     
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    Yes.

    70-300 will probably focus about as quick as the kit lens. Unless you've used a lens with USM/HSM/whateverSM, then you're not going to know what you're missing out until you do.

    Believe me, when I say fast, I mean fast. Whenever my 70-200 is hunting, it can go from one extreme to the next and back quicker than it takes something like the Canon 50mm f/1.8 to go from near focus to far focus.
     

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