Bitter Jeweler
Been spending a lot of time on here!
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OK, here's the skinny on the "Memorandum of Understanding" between Cleveland Photographic Society and the Western Reserve Historical Society. First, many of you were right, I could have paid to get in and taken pictures without any sort of "rights agreement". I was right in that we recieved special access to the event, in that we were allowed ON the battlefield. We were told we could go anywhere, BUT, once on the field we had to stay put. Unfortunately it rained, so we stayed off to the tree line. A couple of guys with better gear, prepared for rain were out on the field. Interestingly, a member from another area photo club, jump the fence to join them, claiming where he was from, that he too had special access. Well, not so much. He was yanked back across the fence by security, while claiming to be a photographer, was told "Sorry, buddy, wrong color wristband" .
The "Memorandum of Understanding" agreement's only bad thing is if are images are published for monetary gain, the WRHS wants to review the image(s) and give permission. They are not asking for monetary gains. The pros in the club, who do sell their work have no problem with this saying "it just adds a small hoop to jump through". This agreement is also not just for this event. It applies to all WRHS properies, to which we gain free access for as long as this aggreement stays in place. So if I want to be held to this agreement, I get in free, if not I pay to get in. No big deal.
I see giving them my images, and rights to use them, crediting the photographer, as a donation. I have no problem with this. If you all do, that's fine. ~END~
To talk about the experience...Wow. It's going to take me a while to get over my hangup of taking peoples pictures. But in the mix of of that is, when you ask to take someones picture, they do dumb poses and stupid smiles, for the most part. I can see getting a better longer lense and trying to capture better candid shots from a distance. I did most of my walking around shots with my 100mm, because it is the sharpest, fastest, fast focusing lense I own. It took some getting used to, but I enjoyed it. It gave me enough distance that I wasn't immediately noticed. That's the other thing, as soon as you are noticed, the whole dynamic changes.
Shooting at this event had other problems. Such as trying to get shots of the actors, without the general public in the shot. Often, I would see a shot, get ready and in position, then have to wait for Average Jane and Joe to walk by, and lose the shot. :meh: Also, I felt, trying to shoot people dressed for the period, I had to pay soooo much attention to the background. I had to watch for people in the background on cell phones. Pay attention to obvious modern chairs and other things laying around. It was hard to shoot convincing "period" images with all the anachronisms.
It rained on and off all day and was very cloudy. Dealing with shade from the trees, or shooting into tents and buildings, I had my ISO up to keep my shutter speed above the focal length, so some of my images are a little noisy. The first pic I posted above was cropped which showed the noise, so I did some noise reduction which made the image a little soft. It doesn't kill the image for me, but I think it is noticable. Doing people shots put me back at square one with learning to see the composition I want. I am back to shooting large, and cropping what I see later when I have more time to think about it. That's fine. In time I will learn to get what I want full frame like I have with inanimate objects. it's all good.
The first image I posted, and this one, below, are my favorite shots of the day.
#3
#4 You can see raindrops. If I ever print this image, I will edit them out.
#5 Does the brown paper bag bother you?
#6 The posing chair from the Tin Type photographer.
Hope you enjoy these. Thanks for looking. Feel free to coment or critic as you see fit.
The "Memorandum of Understanding" agreement's only bad thing is if are images are published for monetary gain, the WRHS wants to review the image(s) and give permission. They are not asking for monetary gains. The pros in the club, who do sell their work have no problem with this saying "it just adds a small hoop to jump through". This agreement is also not just for this event. It applies to all WRHS properies, to which we gain free access for as long as this aggreement stays in place. So if I want to be held to this agreement, I get in free, if not I pay to get in. No big deal.
I see giving them my images, and rights to use them, crediting the photographer, as a donation. I have no problem with this. If you all do, that's fine. ~END~
To talk about the experience...Wow. It's going to take me a while to get over my hangup of taking peoples pictures. But in the mix of of that is, when you ask to take someones picture, they do dumb poses and stupid smiles, for the most part. I can see getting a better longer lense and trying to capture better candid shots from a distance. I did most of my walking around shots with my 100mm, because it is the sharpest, fastest, fast focusing lense I own. It took some getting used to, but I enjoyed it. It gave me enough distance that I wasn't immediately noticed. That's the other thing, as soon as you are noticed, the whole dynamic changes.
Shooting at this event had other problems. Such as trying to get shots of the actors, without the general public in the shot. Often, I would see a shot, get ready and in position, then have to wait for Average Jane and Joe to walk by, and lose the shot. :meh: Also, I felt, trying to shoot people dressed for the period, I had to pay soooo much attention to the background. I had to watch for people in the background on cell phones. Pay attention to obvious modern chairs and other things laying around. It was hard to shoot convincing "period" images with all the anachronisms.
It rained on and off all day and was very cloudy. Dealing with shade from the trees, or shooting into tents and buildings, I had my ISO up to keep my shutter speed above the focal length, so some of my images are a little noisy. The first pic I posted above was cropped which showed the noise, so I did some noise reduction which made the image a little soft. It doesn't kill the image for me, but I think it is noticable. Doing people shots put me back at square one with learning to see the composition I want. I am back to shooting large, and cropping what I see later when I have more time to think about it. That's fine. In time I will learn to get what I want full frame like I have with inanimate objects. it's all good.
The first image I posted, and this one, below, are my favorite shots of the day.
#3
#4 You can see raindrops. If I ever print this image, I will edit them out.
#5 Does the brown paper bag bother you?
#6 The posing chair from the Tin Type photographer.
Hope you enjoy these. Thanks for looking. Feel free to coment or critic as you see fit.