Ysarex
Been spending a lot of time on here!
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Best: Capture One -- pay $$$.
There are free options that aren't as good as Capture One. Consider DarkTable, RawTherapee, LightZone (shaky).
You'll also need an RGB pixel level editor: Affinity Photo.
Joe
Capture 1 is a perpetual license with free updates "within the version you buy". If they come out with a new/updated version, you have to buy the update. The stand alone is priced at $299 for 3 users. Interestingly they offer a subscription at $20/mo for 12 months, or $240 for the year, which includes all version updates. So basically you're going to pay every year if you want to stay current regardless.
@smoke665 et al,
Do you think it's that important to stay current? I know some people always feel the latest is the greatest.
I'm a skeptic and often feel that when you feel you need the latest you should first ask what's wrong now?
Climbers have vastly superior equipment to the 1950's but the route to the summit is unchanged. Ansel
Adams re-worked his prints of, "Moon over Hernandez" many times during his life but I don't think he felt
that his current print invalidated previous prints. He's on record as eagerly anticipating what we call, "The
Digital Age." But I don't think anyone expected him to sell his 4x5 for a D850. As I said before, I'm a Noob
so if I'm missing something please feel free to enlighten me otherwise. This is a great group.
Thanks again to all who reply,
Andrew
Good point and worth considering. I keep reasonably current much of the raw processing software available because of my job. Teaching college photo classes it's fair to say I teach LR and Photoshop. At one of the campuses where I teach the department in fact requires photo classes to use and learn LR. So I have to know LR well enough to teach it. For most of my own work I use C1 as I prefer it. I haven't over the years bought every single C1 update. Phase One is good about that and will let you update at the $99.00 price even if your current version is a couple updates old. So I end up paying Phase One a hundred bucks about once every year and half to two years. Starting with the C1 initial purchase price and then skipping every other version update factored over 5 years and C1 costs a little less than LR. And yes that's considering the addition of PS with LR. Add $50.00 to the C1 cost to purchase Affinity Photo and it's still less over time than paying the monthly Adobe subscription.
Caveat to that: Are you and can you be happy/productive without the latest version of the software. If version 10 is out are you OK still using version 9 until they release version 11 (save yourself $$$). Does version 10 have some killer feature that you can't live without. More importantly did you just buy a new camera that only version 10 supports -- gotcha! That's the forced update mechanism that all the raw conversion software vendors use to keep opening your wallet. A lot of folks are excited about the new Nikon 850. Raw processing support isn't fully in place right now. You could buy the camera and get caught with no ability to process raw files until your software gets out the new camera support update. That's a consideration: How fast are they and how often will they likely catch you with a forced $$$ update. I keep a copy of ACDSee current and those bleep bleep bleepin bleeps seem to be throwing an update party round the clock. The minute the new version hits new camera support for the old version get's buried in the tomb -- time to update $$$. So this is another aspect of the software choice that should be evaluated.
Another Caveat: Divorce is hard and they know it and I wouldn't want to suggest conspiracy type behavior but..... When you chose a raw processing app you're getting married and divorce is hard. The longer you stay married the harder it gets. Case in point: I'm shooting a Fuji X camera right now. Fuji uses a non-conventional (non-Bayer) color filter array that they call X-Trans. Demosaicing X-Trans is tricky and there's considerably more variation in the results one raw converter to the next than you see with Bayer CFA cameras. Unfortunately LR turns in one of the weaker performances doing a poor job rendering fine detail from Fuji X-trans RAF files. Hanging out on some of the Fuji specific boards I see this play out all the time: New Fuji user loves the camera! New Fuji user didn't know about LR demosaicing weakness. New Fuji user comes to forum WTF!!! how do I fix this! Now what! The rest of the board says, use Iridient or PN or RT or____ as your raw processing app and you'll be fine. New Fuji user screams: BUT I HAVE 60,000 photos in my LR catalogs! I AM NOT CHANGING SOFTWARE -- divorce is hard. New Fuji user sells the Fuji and switches back to old camera or begins the long process of denial trying to convince himself that LR fixed it in the last update or it's barely noticeable and it doesn't bother her/him.
And last but not least: You really want to pay attention to how your software choice influences your workflow and how that's going to effect your productivity over time. You've made the choice to process raw files. Your workflow end product has to be an RGB image file. There's a fair amount of variation and complication in how you get from start to finish depending on the software you select. Your software choice can set you up for more work over time and/or force you into a partially destructive workflow that would require you re-do all or most of your work to effect a change. LR's popularity isn't an accident in this regard and I'd rank it at the top of the list for most productive and efficient workflow. That fact should not be taken lightly. C1 is neck and neck competitive with the rest of the pack falling in behind those two. ACDSee, SilkyPix Pro, and surprisingly DarkTable are the only followers who aren't eating dust in this race.
Joe