The Staggering Collapse of the Camera Market

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  1. gryphonslair99

    gryphonslair99 Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Please don't confuse him with facts. We all know that there is only a limited amount of bandwidth and once it is gone the whole internet will implode. A millennial told me so on the internet so it must be true. Gotta go now, I'm meeting a French model for lunch.
     
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    astroNikon 'ya all Bananas I tell 'ya Supporting Member

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    Employees lose their jobs .. aka unemployment whether temporary / contract or full time.
    Mass Loss of jobs usually also coincide with a reduction in local economic spending. As local economies can be affected by large employers can also cause waves in that local economy, which can create job migration.

    Just look at isolated industries in isolated locales for those effects ==> From boom to bust, big changes in ND oil
    Or even restaurants that surround a 3 shift automotive plant.
     
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    astroNikon 'ya all Bananas I tell 'ya Supporting Member

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    ookie dookie

    just that Business Economics education and stuff coming out ...
    Al Gore just called too .. so I have to lay off the internet for a while.
     
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    Nice that somebody is keeping track of your carbon footprint. You really should send Al a nice thank you note. Or maybe a fruit basket...
     
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    astroNikon 'ya all Bananas I tell 'ya Supporting Member

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    He told me if I contact him again he'll have me arrested.
    I'll just contact him with your contact information instead and tell him he's a fruit basket. :)
     
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    Arrested? Really?

    Wow.. he must like you. He told me if I tried contacting him again he'd have me killed. That Al.. he's such a zany madcap really...
     
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    The Barbarian No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Hmmm... Ricoh/Pentax increased camera sales about 50% last year. O.K., nearly 5% of the industry total to a little over 7%, but good for them.
     
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    Okey-Dokey.jpg
     
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    You really should consider getting one of those "The End is Nigh" sandwich boards.
     
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    I'm not entirely certain I'd want such features in a camera. If you have a smartphone, you can take the photo, edit the photo, and then post the photo. But if you have a camera and you're serious about the quality of your photos (and if you have a DSLR there's a good chance you are) then you probably want to tweak the image before sharing it rather than have the camera just upload it "as is".

    So you could add photo editing apps to the camera... but this reminds me of the time when car manufacturers realized people wanted phones in their cars... so they started offering integrated cellphones for the cars. The "problem" was the manufacturer just offered you ONE phone model. Mobile phones are like fashion... people don't want to be told what one thing to wear, they want to pick it out based on their own needs & taste. The same would be true of image editing apps... I don't want a manufacturer thrusting their idea of an image editing app on me and telling me that if I use their camera then I have to use their app because it's all integrated to shoot, edit, and post.

    What I really want is something that will let me "shoot", and easily transfer the image to a device of my choosing... edit it there (and honestly... I am NOT going to edit photos a 3" screen on the back of a camera), and then upload it to possibly multiple locations.

    I really like Apple's model in that I can add information (such as a photo) from any device and within moments it shows up on every other device.

    But there is a catch... most carriers don't truly allow unlimited and unimpeded data volume. Even "unlimited" plans tend to hit the brakes and slow down your data speeds after you exceed some threshold (even if they don't charge you more) and most plans still are not unlimited and have overage charges. That means when I'm "out" shooting, I really don't want the camera to just start syncing everything. I'd rather wait for it to be on a WiFi connection to do that.

    Apple does have a slick protocol build into their devices that allows two devices that are both trusted to auto-detect each other via Bluetooth (bluetooth is very low power, but also very slow) and then use Bluetooth to negotiate a peer-to-peer WiFi connection which can then do a high-speed transfer. That way you don't have to leave the WiFi connect all the time (wasting power) but it's painless to establish. Usually it "just works". Now THAT would be something I'd be interested in because most WiFi cameras are still cumbersome to use when it comes to establishing the WiFi connection.

    Keeping with openness (something most camera makers are definitely NOT good at doing)... it'd be great if the camera was an IoT device with published REST-based APIs so that it wouldn't really matter what "other" apps you want to use... anybody could code against the published API.
     
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    I want my camera to be able to brew me a good cup of coffee and do my taxes for me. Now those would be useable features. :lol:
     
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    Actually gaining in Market share does not necessarily mean they increased their sales.

    Year 1.
    Total market sales is $1000
    Company A sells 100$ worth (so 10% of market)
    Company B sells 200$ worth (20%)
    Company C sells 200$ worth (20%)
    Company D sells 500$ worth (50%)

    Year 2
    Total market sales is $200
    Company A sells 50$ worth (so 25% of market)
    Company B sells 50$ worth (25%)
    Company C sells 50$ worth (25%)
    Company D sells 50$ worth (25%)

    Every company had fewer sales. Company A had increase in Market share but decrease by 1/2 of it's sales.

    I suspect that is what you are seeing with Pentax.
     
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