Want to shoot in the Rocky Mtn parks of BC/AB - it will cost you. A LOT!

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  1. tirediron

    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    It's expensive, darned expensive. If you want to avoid be tossed out of the park, you'd better have a permit, and in order to get that permit, you need to dig deep! If you want to shoot in Banff, Jasper, Kootenay, Yoho, Mount Revelstoke, Glacier or Waterton Lakes National Park, you need a permit, the application for which must be completed at least ten days in advance, and can cost you up to $2000.00 for a weekend of shooting. Yep, you read that right. Here's how it breaks down: (For groups of less than six): Application fee: $148.60. Location fee: $495.30 (PER DAY!) AND you need to carry $2,000,000.00 liability insurance. The full policy can be found here:http://www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/ab/banff/plan/plan10_e.asp

    It seems that the intent of the permit process was to prevent huge production companies moving in and filming in the middle of our parks. That's great, but as detailed in the excellent article in Outdoor Photography Canada (OPC - http://www.outdoorphotographycanada.com ) where I first learned of this (Summer-Fall '08 issue), it applies to anyone with a camera who wants to sell their work. In other words, you can take pictures for yourself (You may still get hassled by the parks staff if you go in with your 400/2.8 because you "look" professional) but if there's any chance you are going to sell, you NEED a permit! The article does go on to say that interpretation of this regulation varies by park, and that the park staff don't deliberately go looking to hassle photographers, but regardless the rule is there, and you can be ejected from the park for failure to comply.

    Personally, I think this is beyond idiotic. I have no problem with a permit process so that they know where I am and what I'm doing (in general terms) so that in the event there were damage to sensitive areas, or other problems, they have a record, but asking me to pay somewhere in the area of $2000 for a weekend of shooting? I doubt if I would shoot enough images in a weekend to recover that cost in a lifetime!

    Another excellent point in the OPC article is that no other artist has to pay this fee; you can take your easel and paintbox and stay a month if you want. I fully intend, and encourage everyone else in Canada, or those who may visit these parks, to write the The Honourable Minister responsible ( http://www.ec.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&en=b6832638-1 ) and demand a change in this policy to make it more reasonable on those of us who might spend a few days a year in the park, and if we're lucky, make a few hundred dollars from the sale of those
     
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    That sucks. I shoot skiing in Banff all the time.
     
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    K8-90 TPF Noob!

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    Woah! I didn't know that! Are they stringent on that?
     
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    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    It seems it's really a crap shoot; some of them interpret it literally - you have camera you pay, and others look at it in the spirit in which it was intended, that is it, it only applies to production companies, and commercial advertising outfits. Either way, the potential is there, and it's something that needs to be addressed! Write your MP, and the Minister responsible!
     
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    I have never heard of any one getting charged the fee or even asked it they have a permit. I shoot there all the tima and have never had a problem, we even have had TPF Meeting there without problems.

    I think this is just on the books in case it is needed, but I have never heard of it being enforced.
     
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    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Perhaps, but I think it's well worth the time to write a letter to the Minister in the hope of having the "book" corrected.
     
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    Thanks for posting this. I'm throught there a fair bit and always taking photos, good thing for the heads up though
     
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    I'd be more than happy to go to the mat with the government on that one. I'd bet you a lot of permit fees that there are lawyers that would line up down the street to defend you for free if they came after you for taking pictures of our nations parklands and (gasp) trying to sell the prints.

    Go get Ansel Adams, haul his bones out, I wanna sue him!

    YEAH... what-ever...
     

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