We as Artist.

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  1. KristiJo

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    Ok. I'm just going to vent... and see what other have to say...

    I am sick and tired of people expecting me to do something for free for them. I know I am an artist, but I also have bills..

    More and more, friends "assume" since they know me, I will "hook" them up and do something for free. Thats like me going to a car dealer because I know him and ask for a free car!

    I know some people have an artistic eye, and other don't. So they assume it's easy for me to do something real quick for them. it's plan and simple...

    time=money.

    Why should I feel obligating to do engagment pictures for free!

    Or why should I have taken the time to do "christmas" photos of a family in front of a tree... and have them assume I was being nice and not charge.

    It's not fair for people to put that on someone who is artistic because they aren't. I dont walk into where they work and ask for free stuff.

    More and more, now that we are getting into a digital society, people assume that can take advantage of an artist, because they assume it is easy for us.. which is does come easier for.. but why do they assume I won't charge!

    Has this happend to anybody?
     
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    Alex_B No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    happens often... with photographers, musicians ... whatever.

    It is not the artist in you though which demands the money, it is the professional in you ;)
     
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    Very true. It just gets frustrating.. which Im sure you can relate too.

    The only thing that gets me, is do they come to us because they think we are good, or do they come to us because they think they can get a deal.
     
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    I am not working as a pro, but still i can relate.

    And I think for most of them it is that they think they can get a deal, I am afraid (of course they assume the job will be done well enough).

    For some it might also be that they think it nicer if there is no strange intruder, but someone they know.
     
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    KristiJo TPF Noob!

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    you have a way with words :)

    I think I'm letting frustration, greed and people walk all over me..
     
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    KristiJo TPF Noob!

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    and of course you are a pro.. more than me
     
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    Alex_B No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    well, I cannot judge how much of a pro you are ;)

    In any case, it is not worth getting upset about people, if you feel exploited, then try to reduce your effort a bit.

    Or just shoot horrible images if not paid, that might reduce further requests ;)
     
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    I'm kind of in the same boat. Only it's mostly with fixing computers, giving computer advice, tech support...

    Everyone knows that I know it...so they assume I'm always ready to help them out. Well, wakey wakey. IT'S FRUSTRATING, and IS WORK!

    I see it more in photography as well...but it's not as bad as computers.

    It's like "oh, can you email me a copy of those?"

    NO!
     
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    Have you ever explained this to them?
    Many people have no idea how much time, effort and money it can take to make a great photograph.

    But explain and they usually understand.
     
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    If someone begins talking about having images taken by you, just politely nod say thanks for the interest and tell them you will get your price list to them promptly. (Not in a snarky way of course, just pretending to be innocently unaware of what they are indicating ;))

    Some people just need to be educated (once again, not snarky) regarding how much work is invested. It isn't just the 1-2 hour shoot, you will go home (gas), upload (wear on your computer), editing (time, usually double the shooting), gear investment ($$$ as we all know).

    If you are close friends, say you are more then willing to offer them exclusively a 25% discount (make them feel special)

    Honestly, I believe most people are simply unaware as opposed to be blatantly ignorant.
     
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    I would think that anyone who is serious about getting someone to take pictures for them would be willing to be pay, even if just to ensure that they get their pictures.
     

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