What do you wish you knew when you started?

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  1. Fiendish Astronaut

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    good article. thanks for the post
     
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    As a young photographer my market knowledge was appalling. I knew that newspapers and magazines existed but I was convinced that the best way to get noticed was to work cheap. It didn’t work. Several magazines were happy enough to pay me bugger all for a few jobs and then, when I put up my prices, they dropped me. I learned quickly. I was only that naïve for a month or two and then I realised that there was a better way…charge the right amount from day one!

    This is what I would have said! Seriously, I wish all of these cheap photographers I see all over the net would realize what they are truly worth and charge it. I made the same mistake and now that I've raised my prices, it's like starting all over again and I will have to find a whole new client base.
     
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    That's a cool article. It doesn't make the profession look any less daunting though, sheesh.
     
  5. Fiendish Astronaut

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    No it doesn't! I've not been around long enough to be able to answer this but I'm really taking on board that point about charging a proper amount. It seems naive to hope that one can work for someone for cheap because they're not confident and then some point down the line expect a client to double what they are paying further down the road. It will just never happen...
     
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    Nice article - thanks for posting.

    Any more insight from the pros here?
     
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    :lol:
     
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    I relate to the one about nothing I learned in photography school prepared me to run a photography studio.

    How many beginners are consumed with choosing the next camera, getting new lights, new lenses, or new software, but have no idea how to prepare a long-range marketing plan, maximize sales or even how to effectively answer the phone.

    I wish I'd known how much I would need to study business before I jumped into it full time.
     
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    i think it's too early for me to say what i missed at the beginning - this is the beginning for me..
    but, if there was one thing, i would have wanted to know more about RAW when i first started shooting digital.

    oh, and that going to school for photography would waste 7 grand.
     
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    An important point brought up and one I keep asking myself...do I continue to consider school after I finish an internship I'm currently at, or continue to work full time as an assistant for my education in fashion photography?
     
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    The interesting thing you hear all the time with photography is how a degree doesn't equal a job. Having said that, I notice the same elsewhere. My computer programming lecturer in college had an MA in French and picked up programming later. I don't know many people that left university with a vocational degree that's actually working in that field. Seems to me to be far better to study a traditional field such as English, history, geography etc as that's much more transferrable.
     
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    No degree will ever get you a job; especially in a creative industry. For me an education should be about learning and bettering oneself, everything else is a secondary benefit.
     

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