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[bribrius]

Objects or shapes (including areas of negative space) don't necessarily have to be even, they can be asymmetrical and still achieve balance. But an area of space needs to be balanced with other areas of space or shapes/objects.

I think the boat picture has better balance and use of shapes (the wheel and the power pilot) but would be better without whatever's at the top, it's hard to make out what it is; and the upper right corner being washed out seems like that part of the photo's just not there. I like that in sepia, works for the subject.

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not to worried about the boat photo (but appreciate the cc)

do you know how I could have shot this wagon where someone will look at the photo and the first thought they will have is how long the kid pulling it has been gone or where the kid went?

 

[bribrius]

I thought of putting it by the road, but im not sure how that would turn out. They could just see a wagon, or think the kid was kidnapped especially if I left a toy in the wagon. im really trying to leave it unknown just have it pop up that no kid is pulling the wagon, kids gone, maybe add some wondering some how on how long did the kid grow up? did the child just leave it?etc. etc.

I can pull this of leaving a open drink, something near it or on it (or any similar situation) current with no kid.
I cant pull this off leaving it totally unknown so someone is wondering how long the kid (person whoever) has been gone.


if I can figure this out for one shot, two shots, three shots, ill be able to use this as a tool whenever I want to and a situation arises in other ways.

open door of a car, sitting by itself on the side of the road, "wonder where they went?" kind of thing. what is missing from the frame.

Get through the obvious ones (people) I can move to things. "wonder where that went?" People relate to people easier. it should be easier to do.

 

[kundalini]

.... im getting cranky.
lol

However I do apologize

I was sipping on tequila last night, so perhaps it is I who needs to apologize.

For your project on this concept, I feel that you are in need of one or more element(s) in the frame to convey your intended message. A shoe tossed aside, a balloon drifting towards the edge of the frame, the desperate look of a parent/guardian, something that helps tell the story with more clarity and compels the viewer to wonder what event have we just missed. The wagon could remain the main subject, but IMO, it needs at least one other element to complete the story. Otherwise, it appears to be a missed shot of the wagon. The tree offers no help and, in fact, is bringing down any possible emotional intensity that could be generated. The use of negative space could offer quite an impact if there was a supporting subject. I can easily envision a desolate roadside field, shot with a UWA lens and being positioned close to the wagon for emphasis and then layer it with the shoe and balloon with lots of negative space, in B&W of course. Just rambling thoughts on a Friday after work.

 

[vintagesnaps]

Maybe the solitary wagon (no tree?) with space enough to make it seem lonely. Or try different vantage points with the wagon and tree til you find what gives more of a sense of emptiness. To learn composition probably will take more than some questions and answers on a message board, it takes time to learn how to use space etc. in photos.

 

[bribrius]

.... im getting cranky.
lol

However I do apologize

I was sipping on tequila last night, so perhaps it is I who needs to apologize.

For your project on this concept, I feel that you are in need of one or more element(s) in the frame to convey your intended message. A shoe tossed aside, a balloon drifting towards the edge of the frame, the desperate look of a parent/guardian, something that helps tell the story with more clarity and compels the viewer to wonder what event have we just missed. The wagon could remain the main subject, but IMO, it needs at least one other element to complete the story. Otherwise, it appears to be a missed shot of the wagon. The tree offers no help and, in fact, is bringing down any possible emotional intensity that could be generated. The use of negative space could offer quite an impact if there was a supporting subject. I can easily envision a desolate roadside field, shot with a UWA lens and being positioned close to the wagon for emphasis and then layer it with the shoe and balloon with lots of negative space, in B&W of course. Just rambling thoughts on a Friday after work.

compels the viewer to wonder. exactly. I have no problem losing the tree. apologize for the outburst. For some reason I keep finding these difficult. I clearly missed here, again. which is okay, that is what I posted it for to find out how and how much. I need to find implements. ways, to strengthen the image. I agree.

Thankyou

 

[bribrius]

Maybe the solitary wagon (no tree?) with space enough to make it seem lonely. Or try different vantage points with the wagon and tree til you find what gives more of a sense of emptiness. To learn composition probably will take more than some questions and answers on a message board, it takes time to learn how to use space etc. in photos.

I can totally lose the tree. I thought it helped the frame by taking emphasis off the wagon just like when I put the wagon in the back corner, and I thought it made it at least a little more pleasing to look at, but it is only distracting further I guess and most probably unnecessary.

it is taking me a lot more time than I had anticipated trying to figure these types of photos out. Usually when you see this concept it is in a movie with background music aiding, or maybe on a missing child commercial with background talking or words going across the screen with it. Hard condensing that sense of wonder on a missing object or person just in a photo, so that the viewer wonders why it isn't in the photo. Hard envisioning how you can convey it the best. least for me it is im struggling...

Thankyou,