A moral dilema

swiftparkour94 · Nov 5, 2012

o hey tyler said:
Yes, how snobby for her to do her job the way she was trained!

Try working in customer service, OR a waitstaff employee. Talk about a perspective change. Be considerate of other people and respond to a fricken question with an ANSWER, not the same response you gave prior to the question. You must be incredibly socially unaware.

She probably gave you cheese because you were such a tool in your exchange with her. You are the one who sounds snobby judging by what you wrote.

You should come down, I'll show you to her and you can give her an award for placing an incorrect order on purpose.

CHEESEburger = a burger with cheese on it. What am I missing here? I couldn't have been more clear. My first response to her repetitive question was said because I thought that she misheard me. Then she asks again, now I'm thinking she's just playing stupid with me so I break it down for her. She still doesn't get it, so I just say no cheese. I get cheese on it, how is that not her fault?

Done talking about this.

o hey tyler · Nov 5, 2012

swiftparkour94 said:
o hey tyler said:

Yes, how snobby for her to do her job the way she was trained!

Try working in customer service, OR a waitstaff employee. Talk about a perspective change. Be considerate of other people and respond to a fricken question with an ANSWER, not the same response you gave prior to the question. You must be incredibly socially unaware.

She probably gave you cheese because you were such a tool in your exchange with her. You are the one who sounds snobby judging by what you wrote.

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You should come down, I'll show you to her and you can give her an award for placing an incorrect order on purpose.

CHEESEburger = a burger with cheese on it. What am I missing here? I couldn't have been more clear. My first response to her repetitive question was said because I thought that she misheard me. Then she asks again, now I'm thinking she's just playing stupid with me so I break it down for her. She still doesn't get it, so I just say no cheese. I get cheese on it, how is that not her fault?

Done talking about this.

It's YOUR fault for saying, "No thank you, leave the cheese off" when she asked if you wanted cheese. THAT would have been more clear.

Being an 18 year old that's never worked a waitstaff position, you should know that they get paid less than minimum wage, and make most of their money off of tips. What she was doing, was making sure you were not asking for a cheeseburger, because if you were it would mean a larger check for your table (generally cheese is an up-charge) and she would in turn get more in tip money. This is very important for all waitstaff, as it can either be a very lucrative job some nights, and completely opposite the next night.

Try answering the question with the previous statement in quotation marks, and not being such a dingus to a person that busts their ass all day to serve people like you. Guaranteed you won't get cheese on your burger.

#realtalk

pixmedic · Nov 5, 2012

I generally tip a minimum of 20% if the service was at least "adequate". more if the service was exemplary.
ive been told i overtip but...i dunno, it feels about the right amount.

thetrue · Nov 5, 2012

Tips used to be given before a meal, to ensure you were served promptly

Tuffythepug · Nov 5, 2012

20% for me too; on the food and beverage amount... not including the tax. Having worked in food service many years ago I know what it's like to be dependent on tips to survive. This was when minimum wage was $1.75 per hour.

pixmedic · Nov 5, 2012

thetrue said:
Tips used to be given before a meal, to ensure you were served promptly

I wouldn't. tips are (should be) based on the level of service, and the satisfaction of the customer. i dont know how much to tip until all of my orders are done so i know how much i have spent, and the meal/whatever is finished so I know what level of service i have been provided. im not sure what tipping protocol is the norm now, but I generally go 20-25% for normal service, and 30-40% if i really feel they went above and beyond the call of duty for me.

thetrue · Nov 5, 2012

I do the same thing, but tips weren't originally based on a percentage, they were like slipping the maitre'd (sp?) a $20 to get seated faster.

unpopular · Nov 5, 2012

pixmedic said:
I generally tip a minimum of 20% if the service was at least "adequate". more if the service was exemplary.
ive been told i overtip but...i dunno, it feels about the right amount.

I give 15% for "adequate" but typically wait staff go beyond "adequate", so typically I leave 20%. Sometimes if I feel like the wait thinks I'm too poor to give a decent tip, I make sure to leave a big one, not because they deserve it - but rather because I like thinking they feel guilty about treating us badly.

Once, we waited an hour and a half with only one refill before leaving seven bucks for the salad and drink orders.

sm4him · Nov 5, 2012

I leave 20% as long as the service was reasonably decent. Better than that, I might leave more.
Sometimes, I just get the sense it's been a rough day for the server, and so I leave a bigger than normal tip, even if it was less than stellar service.

However, if they do the "gratuity included" thing on the tab, then that's what they get; nothing less, but nothing more. I don't really LIKE being *told* what I will leave for a tip--that kinda makes it no longer a tip, imo.

unpopular · Nov 5, 2012

^^ actually, I think it's really better. That means that the restaurant is paying at least minimum wage and that the tips you leave isn't cutting into their base pay. It shows that the restaurant owner is taking responsibility for his or her employees.

The_Traveler · Nov 6, 2012

I really like reading the SWIFTPARKOUR94's postings (edited to remove an error).
They never fail to reassure me that kids know everything, can do everything, are never wrong, are experts in everything that isn't visible and are generally really annoying to be around.

In a country with the number of handguns there are in private hands, it is almost a wonder that anyone lives to be 21.

manaheim · Nov 6, 2012

Derrel said:
Your penance is to watch White Oleander six times and eat a bucket full of dry,unsalted, unbuttered popcorn at EACH viewing!

THAT'LL TEACH YOU!!!!!!

What? That's it? No going off on him and calling him names with big, bold, letters?

Very inconsistent moral policing on your part.

unpopular · Nov 6, 2012

The_Traveler said:
I really like reading the OPs post.
They never fail to reassure me that kids know everything, can do everything, are never wrong, are experts in everything that isn't visible and are generally really annoying to be around.

In a country with the number of handguns there are in private hands, it is almost a wonder that anyone lives to be 21.

You got all that from the accidental theft of a houseplant??