Adobe Bridge vs. Lightroom vs. Aperture

[Bobby Ironsights]

Hi guys. I took my new 70D to our dog trial on Sunday. It was the first outing and a test run. Ended up taking over 1300 photos. This brings me to a question as the best way to manage the photos. I am new to photography so there will probably be some culling required, but I am now wondering what the best way to go through all the photos.......advice and suggestions would be great. I will post some photos soon as I want some CC. Thanks!

I wanna say this in a way that's encouraging, and not discouraging. I really mean that, I want you to be happy and successful

1300 exposures is absolutely ridiculous. It's hard on your camera, but that's not important, what is important is that it's a colossal waste of your time. DON'T waste your time. It's your most precious resource, and it's very, very finite. You don't have time to really look at each and every one of thousands of photographs taken in a single outing right?. If you did, you wouldn't be a photographer, you'd be a curator. You definitely don't have time to edit and catalog each and every one of those photographs, you don't have time to edit, print, mat, frame and hang all those exposures and you wouldn't have a place to put them if you did.

And you really, really don't want to be looking at so many shots that the few good ones just slip past you because you have brain burnout from looking at so many mediocre shots. That's an awful thing, because you might do this for the rest of your life and only really get a half dozen really good shots, if you're lucky.

So, to sum up, don't be a machine gunner, be a sniper. Use your eyes to see the opportunity first, then go get the shot. . Be stingy on the shutter, because it's nothing to spend a whole evening editing and printing and matting and framing a single good negative; but once it's on the wall, you can gloat over it for years to come. It will bring you much pleasure if it's up on the wall.

Also, Prune RUTHLESSLY, if it's OK, throw it away, if it's pretty good, hit delete. It takes truckloads of dirt to get to the diamond.

I don't mind spending alot of my time on this post, because if nothing else, I've retaught myself essentials and maybe passed along some tiny bit of the huge amount of help I've gotten here at TPF in the last 8 years. Two semesters of photog in univ. was only really enough to get me started. Plus, I'm a newbie too. I just recently made the switch from film and paper, to digital negatives and digital darkroom. We're all in this together here.

thanks, Bobby

 

[bbbflash]

Hi guys. I took my new 70D to our dog trial on Sunday. It was the first outing and a test run. Ended up taking over 1300 photos. This brings me to a question as the best way to manage the photos. I am new to photography so there will probably be some culling required, but I am now wondering what the best way to go through all the photos.......advice and suggestions would be great. I will post some photos soon as I want some CC. Thanks!

I wanna say this in a way that's encouraging, and not discouraging. I really mean that, I want you to be happy and successful

1300 exposures is absolutely ridiculous. It's hard on your camera, but that's not important, what is important is that it's a colossal waste of your time. DON'T waste your time. It's your most precious resource, and it's very, very finite. You don't have time to really look at each and every one of thousands of photographs taken in a single outing right?. If you did, you wouldn't be a photographer, you'd be a curator. You definitely don't have time to edit and catalog each and every one of those photographs, you don't have time to edit, print, mat, frame and hang all those exposures and you wouldn't have a place to put them if you did.

And you really, really don't want to be looking at so many shots that the few good ones just slip past you because you have brain burnout from looking at so many mediocre shots. That's an awful thing, because you might do this for the rest of your life and only really get a half dozen really good shots, if you're lucky.

So, to sum up, don't be a machine gunner, be a sniper. Use your eyes to see the opportunity first, then go get the shot. . Be stingy on the shutter, because it's nothing to spend a whole evening editing and printing and matting and framing a single good negative; but once it's on the wall, you can gloat over it for years to come. It will bring you much pleasure if it's up on the wall.

Also, Prune RUTHLESSLY, if it's OK, throw it away, if it's pretty good, hit delete. It takes truckloads of dirt to get to the diamond.

I don't mind spending alot of my time on this post, because if nothing else, I've retaught myself essentials and maybe passed along some tiny bit of the huge amount of help I've gotten here at TPF in the last 8 years. Two semesters of photog in univ. was only really enough to get me started. Plus, I'm a newbie too. I just recently made the switch from film and paper, to digital negatives and digital darkroom. We're all in this together here.

thanks, Bobby

Bobby, it's Bobby. Great name. I also could not agree more. It was the first time out with the new camera and did end up going a little over board, but at least I learn that. I haven't even starter/looking for advice as to the type of shoot it was. My wife and I run our dogs in agility and I will be doing a lot of it. Quick shutter speeds and bursts of 4 was what I aimed at. As you can imagine 50 dogs, 20 obstacles and multiple courses ended up with a lot of shots. I will be seeking advice on action/moving/sport soon. I had some focus issues I noticed so I have my list of questions, but I want to get these processed and out of my way. I have about 100 ok shots and I agree it, too much post production work. I am not a professional, but I do want to work/think that I can work on a professional level. That's where everyone on here comes in and I have a lot of reading to do.

Anyways, I downloaded a trial version of lightroom 5. I am trying to sort out file types and lightroom 5/photoshop CS5 CR2 files compatibility yada yada yada. I have a feeling I am just going to end up getting CC simply because of the easy factor of it. I tried editing one of my photos on Photoshop from Lightroom and it worked with CS5. I am sure it is converting the file, just don't have the time to see/find out what it is doing. Bit of a busy week.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[photogenius]

I have no experience in these programs would like to see your photos

 

[bbbflash]

Here are a few. They are pulled from the Facebook account they will be shown on. It's the easiest way from my phone.

I definitely have a lot of learning to do in Lightroom and really need to practice with my camera. I had issues with focus on most of the photos. The dogs would move too quick so I focused on the he jumps and found that the dogs were slightly out of focus in most of them. I also learned how much it pays to shoot raw verses JPEG. I switched towards the end of the day that ruined quite a few photos due to the lack of editing ability.
Feel free to CC.

 

[The_Traveler]

Your timing is very nice
I think these pictures aren't so much out of focus as motion blurred.
Use shutter preferred or manual and get your shutter speed up.

 

[Bobby Ironsights]

Good Job, favorites are numbers 5 and 7, you had the light with you both times, and they both look like they were taken during the Magic Hour. I can say though, that If I could do anything with that exposure 7, I'd have given it a bit of fill flash. Fill flash can do amazing things to eliminate harsh shadows in bright sunlight and give an extra bit of sparkle to the negative.

I also would've cropped 7 a bit tighter.


Maybe even a bit tighter than that eh?


I think I like the tightest crop best, it seems to follow the Rule of Thirds, and that always tickles me just right.

I'm a lighting newbie but I've just started reading the textbook Light Science and Magic on the advice of others, and so far it's been pretty good, with clear lighting diagrams and all.

Also, have you thought about GIMP as a graphics editor? It's a GNU program which means it's completely free and there's alot of user created plugins for it and there's alot of youtube tutorials on how to use it. I'm torn myself between PS and GIMP. I like taking pictures and all, but for me the darkrooms is where the magic happens and I feel like I've created something when I hold that print in my hands. I hope that doesn't change now that I've gone digital.

BTW. I hope your photographs are OK to edit. I can't see now that they've changed the forum again

 

[bbbflash]

I remember seeing that when I signed up, but didn't think anything about it. I am cool for edits as long as they are to show/teach. Those were the best of the best. There are 60 more to go up on Facebook.

I haven't really thought much about using a flash. I absolutely hate using them with point and shoots and there is one on my canon, but never think to use it. It will be something I look into one I figure out my camera better. Lighting was my biggest issue. I started shooting at noon and it went all day and I to the night. I found it much easy to shoot between 3-5. Before that, too harsh of shadow and after that, I struggled to get my settings right. I also ended up shooting JPEG some how so I lost a lot from that too.
I have another trial coming up in two weeks so I will be looking for some tips shortly.

 

[Bobby Ironsights]

There are 60 more to go up on Facebook.

I haven't really thought much about using a flash. I absolutely hate using them with point and shoots and there is one on my canon, but never think to use it. It will be something I look into one I figure out my camera better. Lighting was my biggest issue. I started shooting at noon and it went all day and I to the night. I found it much easy to shoot between 3-5. Before that, too harsh of shadow and after that, I struggled to get my settings right. I also ended up shooting JPEG some how so I lost a lot from that too.
I have another trial coming up in two weeks so I will be looking for some tips shortly.

You spent alot money in camera, you should get yourself a field guide to specific camera, 70D was it?, they're better than the instruction manual you got in the box, almost always. They also sell clamshell type laminated cardboard thingies that give you all your functions at a glance, and are handy.

To use fill flash spin the selector to one of the creative modes like P, and press the flash popup button with your left index finger and you're fill flashing.

I would wander around your house and shoot, and try outdoors a bit before shooting anything I wanted to keep as the little winker needs a little time to get used to. keep in mind too the light is specular

Also, how did you "ruin" pictures with JPG? Is your camera settings messed up? Broken? It's easy to reset the defaults.