black and white

[viviansungg]

what do you think about this? any ideas for retouch or anything??

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[paigew]

What is it you are trying to convey with these images? Is there a story, a feeling? The first seems very dark; in general you want to keep the "horizon line" out of the middle of the frame, especially in this case since it is all blacked out adding nothing to the image.

The second image is more visually interesting with the lights and shadows going through the entire frame. I'm not sure what I'm looking at here though, my eye moves around the frame searching for a "focus" point.