Body Paint Shoot - Snake Theme

[thetrue]

I'm going to find these art people around here now!!!

 

[cgipson1]

hahaha... cool! There is always something going on... checkout your local meetup.com also....

 

[MK3Brent]

The only thing I feel like mentioning, and is something I find myself doing a lot myself, is in #1.

#1, has a slight d.o.f problem. Since you're capturing the whole snake theme, the actual snake in the shot is lost in OOF area. (happens to me from time to time when shooting 2 or more people together and I shoot at 1.8 or something dumb for some reason.)

Other than that, looks fine to me.
I like the subject, and body paint.
Never photographed things like that before.

 

[cgipson1]

The only thing I feel like mentioning, and is something I find myself doing a lot myself, is in #1.

#1, has a slight d.o.f problem. Since you're capturing the whole snake theme, the actual snake in the shot is lost in OOF area. (happens to me from time to time when shooting 2 or more people together and I shoot at 1.8 or something dumb for some reason.)

Other than that, looks fine to me.
I like the subject, and body paint.
Never photographed things like that before.

Thanks.. yea, that happened on few when I was not being careful. It was kind of crazy.. too many people in a fairly small studio! lol!

 

[amolitor]

After noodling on these some more I think you made an error in trying to take basic portraits of non-basic people. With such a limited light setup, the portraits are not going to be very successful anyways. I would have gone with harsher light, placed to deliberately create unflattering and grotesque shadows. These people are going for a wild animalistic thing, work with that. Light hard from the side to make long weird shadows, hit them with a snoot so they appear to be appearing out of the dark, or are lost in a hole, or whatever. Of course, I love the snoot, so that's just me.

 

[cgipson1]

The intent was to show off the Artists work... not shoot weird photos! You think these look normal? I purposely shot them with more shadow to at least provide them something a little different. They had a multi light setup that I would use more for standard portraiture... and that is what they got there.

I have never seen you post any of your work, that would illustrate what you speak of, care to do so?

 

[jbkm1994]

Well said Tirediron!

 

[Desi]

Hey Charlie, that looks like a lot of fun. I like the first quite a bit. Nice lighting and DOF. I see the snake immediately after her face. The image achieves a sense of mystery.

"snake jam 13" is pretty cool too. She looks so much like her snake. I just wish she were being more serpentine.

 

[invisible]

Fabulous concept, Charlie! Very creative. Having seen the images both here and on the NSFW gallery, I'll pick the second one here as the best.

 

[amolitor]

The intent was to show off the Artists work... not shoot weird photos! You think these look normal? I purposely shot them with more shadow to at least provide them something a little different. They had a multi light setup that I would use more for standard portraiture... and that is what they got there.

I have never seen you post any of your work, that would illustrate what you speak of, care to do so?

now Charlie, don't get all defensive and testy like some noob. If you just wanted to be kissed and coddled, you should have said so.

 

[cgipson1]

Hey Charlie, that looks like a lot of fun. I like the first quite a bit. Nice lighting and DOF. I see the snake immediately after her face. The image achieves a sense of mystery.

"snake jam 13" is pretty cool too. She looks so much like her snake. I just wish she were being more serpentine.

Thanks Desi! The first one is one of my favorites also... I also like the first of the nudes I posted, the Albino with her scarf / sweater! I love her expression in that one. There were some good artists there... they took about 6 to 7 hours to do each model.

 

[cgipson1]

Fabulous concept, Charlie! Very creative. Having seen the images both here and on the NSFW gallery, I'll pick the second one here as the best.

Federico, thank you! One of the artists organizes this type of thing occasionally, and I may have to start going more often! It was a lot of fun!

 

[cgipson1]

The intent was to show off the Artists work... not shoot weird photos! You think these look normal? I purposely shot them with more shadow to at least provide them something a little different. They had a multi light setup that I would use more for standard portraiture... and that is what they got there.

I have never seen you post any of your work, that would illustrate what you speak of, care to do so?

now Charlie, don't get all defensive and testy like some noob. If you just wanted to be kissed and coddled, you should have said so.

I am not being defensive at all, Amolitor! It is just that (as I have mentioned many times) you always have an opinion (which is fine), but you never post photos to back up that opinion and the advice you give! The photos I have seen.. I wasn't that impressed with... and would love to see some of your "real" work!

 

[amolitor]

Well, you and are will have to simply continue to differ on whether or not an opinion about photographs needs to be backed with with photographs. I am on the record with my claim that taking photographs and talking about them are unrelated, while you appear to feel the opposite.

Glad to hear you're not feeling defensive about an alternate opinion. Dissent and discourse is how we learn, a whole bunch of "great work!" posts makes one feel good, but doesn't actually help much.

 

[cgipson1]

Well, you and are will have to simply continue to differ on whether or not an opinion about photographs needs to be backed with with photographs. I am on the record with my claim that taking photographs and talking about them are unrelated, while you appear to feel the opposite.

Glad to hear you're not feeling defensive about an alternate opinion. Dissent and discourse is how we learn, a whole bunch of "great work!" posts makes one feel good, but doesn't actually help much.

Talking and not DOing? There are many critics that do the same.. they talk about movies, books, food, etc.. and yet have no idea how to make a movie, write a book, or cook a decent meal, and yet they often destroy the actual creative types that actually do produce these things. In my opinion, they are useless people in parasitic professions.. that produce nothing but ill-will and BS!

Having an Art Education (if you even do, I don't know!) does not make one an ARTIST.

When one speaks authoratatively on an online forum... the Noobs don't know whether they should actually listen to that individual or not, so most do... because they often lack the knowledge to tell the difference between a real authority, and a "not so real" authority! This can be very misleading to the average person just starting out. This is my main problem with the "All talk, and no DO" types!

The only "credentials" we have here.. are the photos we take and post. That is how we "prove" that we are capable (or otherwise) photographers, and that what we say may be true.

Those that just want to just Talk and Discuss photography? Fine... but I hope that most will take them with a grain of salt, since they have not "proven" that they can take what they talk about, and produce anything meaningful!

We will probably continue to disagree on this subject. I have known too many "Experts" that started blogging... that can talk all day, but never produce a thing (even though they know so much about it!) Knowing just theory, with no practical experience behind it... that is not really that useful.

Not trying to be disrespectful to you, or anyone in particular! Just responding to your post!