Bounce Flash

his4ever · Mar 20, 2007

I have been experimenting with my new flash. I love how it swivles and all that... but how do you know where to point it to get the right light? What do you all do with your flashes?
I have an event coming up in April where I will be kindof photojournalising. It will be indoors. I really want to master the bounce flash before going there. I only seem to get it right when I am in my home (although I think it comes out to bright sometimes). What shall I do?

Digital Matt · Mar 20, 2007

Well, you have to look at what you have available to bounce from. You have to have a ceiling (or a wall) that is relatively low, ie. not 20 feet. You'll also need to be aware of the color of the ceiling, or wall, so you don't induce a color cast.

For my needs, I don't bounce at all. I built a diffuser for my flash out of a won ton soup container. Fit the flash pointed straight up, I get nice soft lighting.

Big Mike · Mar 20, 2007

Practice and experience.

Also, when bouncing off of the ceiling, the light may be coming too much from over head, not lighting up the front of the subject enough. This where all the accessories come in. The idea is that you want to bounce most of the light but you want some to shoot forward to light up the eyes/face of your subject.

It could be as simple as a white card (bounce card). Or check this out for [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCmuExlHvM"]'A better bounce card' [/ame].
You could use something like the Gary Fong 'Lightsphere' or one of the similar creations.
Then there is the ever popular Omnibounce.
I have a Lumiquest ProMax system on the way, should be here tomorrow.

Don't forget that you don't have to always bounce from above. Bounce off of walls, people...anything you can.

fmw · Mar 20, 2007

To say nothing of the won ton flavor you impart to all the events.

his4ever · Mar 20, 2007

wow... didnt think that youtube would have tutorials. Thanks.

Would a Rubbing Achool bottle work too?

Tangerini · Mar 20, 2007

Digital, would you mind showing us a picture of your won ton flash adapter?

EOS_JD · Mar 20, 2007

I've used a cropped milk carton!!! But I succummed to the fong lightsphere as it looks just a bit more professional and works well.

DeepSpring · Mar 20, 2007

You can make some sort of flash bouncer/diffuser out of just about anything.
Be creative and try different materials.

his4ever · Mar 20, 2007

sweet

Yea... Digital... I am with Tangerini... would love to see your wonton addapter too.

ksmattfish · Mar 21, 2007

Google "inverse square law photography" and "flash guide number" for good reading material.

You can bounce light off almost any surface. Aspects of the surface such as distance and angle to the flash, texture, color, and material all can affect the light. Only practice and experience is going to teach you to estimate the effects of different ceilings. Digital makes practicing and test shots easy. With film I quickly realized the value of a good flash meter.

In a home or building with ceilings less than 12' tall with fairly light tone, and not much texture, I figure light fall off from the distance of the path the light is taking (to the ceiling and then to the subject), and assume the surface is going to reduce flash power at least a stop. More texture or darker toned surfaces will suck up even more light.

The color of the surface is going to change the color of the light reflecting off of it. That's easy to solve with digital. With film I shot mostly BW.

Ceilings are the typical bounce surface, but you can bounce off whatever you can aim your flash at. Aim it at the white wall behind you. Bounce it off a reflector held by an assistant. Use your imagination.

For weddings I carry a Lightsphere, an Omnibounce, and a mini softbox (5"x8"). I had a Lumi-quest all in one bounce diffuser thingee kit, but I lost it. They all do a good job, and sometimes one works better than another for something I'm trying. I bought a Canon 580 flash, and I thought the little pull out white card reflector was a joke. When I actually tried it I really liked it a lot for many bounce flash situations.

I'm all for the DIY version of this stuff. Flash modifiers are expensive, but almost anyone should be able to make their own. I'm using plain old white index cards rubber banded to my flashes for bounce flash.

It's even better than the pull out 580 reflector, because I can make it bigger.

RVsForFun · Mar 21, 2007

I use a Sto-Fen diffuser ($16) about 98% of the time. I also have the Gary Fong LightSphere II (cloudy) but it's only effective to about 6 feet without the reflector top he now wants to sell you. I made a foamboard top with a hole in it for the LSII and it double the effective distance; made it for about $1 instead of the $40 for the top.

I do weddings for about 95% of my income. I only use straight-on, un-modified flash for the processional and recessional where I need maximum firepower and minimum recycling time.

Big Mike · Mar 21, 2007

Gary Fong also has a new flash modifier...it looks like a whale tale, or a toilet :lol:

I haven't heard from anyone using it yet.

Digital Matt · Mar 21, 2007

As to my DIY diffuser, I broke the one I was using by accidentally landing my photo backpack on top of it. I just finished another large won ton soup, so I'll be making a new one soon. The design is simple. The large 1 qt soup contiainer with lid on is inverted over the flash. Cut an X in the lid the size of your flash head. Slip it on. If you want, you can cover the inside with white paper on one side, keeping that part at the back, to bounce the light more forward.

RMThompson · Mar 21, 2007

MATT WE STILL WANT PICTURES!

his4ever · Mar 21, 2007

man, Big Mike thanks for showing me how Youtube and be a help. I just plain advoided it until you shared that there are DIY stuff on there. I just learned today how to make photographs pop with Inkscape. How cool is that!?!?

Thanks Big Mike!