Jewelry Product Photo with pure white background

[Woolsocks]

The requirement is plain ring no props with a 255 background.

God it's so simple. Why don't you photograph it with an entirely black background. Then Photoshop/gimp in the white background. It's not hard to add a shadow if you wish in Photoshop.

 

[Digger...]

Maybe your following a tutorial instead of experimenting for yourself eh?

When I used to focus stack I went into manual focus and took like at least 10 pictures if not more. 20. 30. A slight twist of the focus and take a shot then do it again. Like millimeters at a time.

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There is some sort of white banding in the middle of the ring. Is this from the white reflectors or an error in your post processing? Have you tried using a gold reflector as well as the white cards focused on the ring. Gold reflector added to one photograph. Then gold reflector removed. Then come bine it in a mask in photoshop like how I showed you in a previous reply when whats his name asked me to show what I was talking about.

What did you do here with the editing to the OP's shot in #24? Theres some nice improvement there Mr. Especially the 1st ring.

 

[Woolsocks]

What did you do here with the editing to the OP's shot in #24? Theres some nice improvement there Mr. Especially the 1st ring.

You like it? Cool.

I opened both images in topaz photo ai. I used 50% sharpening in the first image. 30 in the next image. Exported into .Tiff without resizing. Opened in photoshop. Ran through various sharpening techniques and adjusting brightness. I changed color with Nik color efex. Then I played around with opacity/transparency under layer properties. 30% I think. I then combined all layers (2) and set it to grayscale control and the u key in photoshop. Set layer to overlay and went to filter> high pass. A setting of 1.7. I then combined all layers again into a new layer and disabled the 2nd layer and changed the opacity/transparency.

The second image I used color efex bleach preset. Which I could have done myself in photoshop without it but I was in a hurry. I then repeated the process I explained above.

 

[Digger...]

You like it? Cool.

I opened both images in topaz photo ai. I used 50% sharpening in the first image. 30 in the next image. Exported into .Tiff without resizing. Opened in photoshop. Ran through various sharpening techniques and adjusting brightness. I changed color with Nik color efex. Then I played around with opacity/transparency under layer properties. 30% I think. I then combined all layers (2) and set it to grayscale control and the u key in photoshop. Set layer to overlay and went to filter> high pass. A setting of 1.7. I then combined all layers again into a new layer and disabled the 2nd layer and changed the opacity/transparency.

The second image I used color efex bleach preset. Which I could have done myself in photoshop without it but I was in a hurry. I then repeated the process I explained above.

Thats way over my head Mr, geez all i do is hit auto.

The problem with auto in free LR on my tablet it really bumps up the saturation and colour & i have to always bring those right back to zero.

But yeah just basic stuff for me.

 

[JBPhotog]

Maybe your following a tutorial instead of experimenting for yourself eh?

When I used to focus stack I went into manual focus and took like at least 10 pictures if not more. 20. 30. A slight twist of the focus and take a shot then do it again. Like millimeters at a time.

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There is some sort of white banding in the middle of the ring. Is this from the white reflectors or an error in your post processing? Have you tried using a gold reflector as well as the white cards focused on the ring. Gold reflector added to one photograph. Then gold reflector removed. Then come bine it in a mask in photoshop like how I showed you in a previous reply when whats his name asked me to show what I was talking about.

Yikes! That is waaaay over sharpened, so many halos I thought I was surrounded by angels.

 

[JBPhotog]

These seem to be the best that I could muster. The easiest way for me was the Lightbox under the jewelry. I'm still trying to experiment with the one light source above and behind but I found that it's more difficult in post. I think that I need to get better with post or a better understanding of it. As for the focus stacking, I can't seem to get it to line up correctly between the 3 or 4 different shots. In post it seems to always be a little bit off. I am doing the auto option in PS for that and it's not coming out correctly. I've tried to do it manually but that seems to be off too.....I really hate the fact that I can't get the band to be in full focus. Any ideas?View attachment 279036 View attachment 279037

Much better than your first samples, notice some brilliance in the gem stones. I'm afraid you have stumbled on a very challenging subject to shoot. Tilt shift optics, focus stacking, an almost OCD understanding of lighting and reflections, exposure blending and mega post processing skills are required here.

 

[Woolsocks]

Much better than your first samples, notice some brilliance in the gem stones. I'm afraid you have stumbled on a very challenging subject to shoot. Tilt shift optics, focus stacking, an almost OCD understanding of lighting and reflections, exposure blending and mega post processing skills are required here.

OCD. Obsessive compulsive disorder. I have it. You mean obsessive insight on lighting and reflections. The two are very different from each other.

I believe it improves on "Hayden." The blue gem especially. But one can't sharpen one gem without sharpening the others.

 

[JBPhotog]

OCD. Obsessive compulsive disorder. I have it. You mean obsessive insight on lighting and reflections. The two are very different from each other.

I believe it improves on "Hayden." The blue gem especially. But one can't sharpen one gem without sharpening the others.

I said "almost" OCD with the intent of being obsessive with observing, thinking how to make it better, doing so, rinse and repeat. As product photographer for over 40 years, for the uninitiated to watch the process, it's about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Of course you can sharpen one object and not others, that is through the use of masks in post processing. Global sharpening should be avoided unless doing so is judicious with the goal of it not being obvious and avoid creating artifacts in areas that degrade the image.

 

[Woolsocks]

I said "almost" OCD with the intent of being obsessive with observing, thinking how to make it better, doing so, rinse and repeat. As product photographer for over 40 years, for the uninitiated to watch the process, it's about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Of course you can sharpen one object and not others, that is through the use of masks in post processing. Global sharpening should be avoided unless doing so is judicious with the goal of it not being obvious and avoid creating artifacts in areas that degrade the image.

I agree.

 

[RAZKY]

These seem to be the best that I could muster. The easiest way for me was the Lightbox under the jewelry. I'm still trying to experiment with the one light source above and behind but I found that it's more difficult in post. I think that I need to get better with post or a better understanding of it. As for the focus stacking, I can't seem to get it to line up correctly between the 3 or 4 different shots. In post it seems to always be a little bit off. I am doing the auto option in PS for that and it's not coming out correctly. I've tried to do it manually but that seems to be off too.....I really hate the fact that I can't get the band to be in full focus. Any ideas?

I still think you'd do well with a couple of LED lights in front, something like clip lights for reading a book. Turn off the light box background and you'll be able to see where to place the lights. For your focus stacking, you definitely need smaller increments. This macro DOF calculator gives the recommended distance between shots depending upon the magnification and aperture:

 

[Digger...]

Yikes! That is waaaay over sharpened, so many halos I thought I was surrounded by angels.

What are these halo things?

 

[RAZKY]

I don't know what happened, but I'll try again to post the link for the calculator:

Macro Depth of Field (DoF) Calculator | PhotoPills

Use this calculator to get more accurate depth of field values when shooting macro and close-up shots.

www.photopills.com

 

[JBPhotog]

What are these halo things?

They are visible all over the gems and ring. Look for black and white edges around every part of the subject. Here is a sample that should be clear enough.

 

[Woolsocks]

They are visible all over the gems and ring. Look for black and white edges around every part of the subject. Here is a sample that should be clear enough.

Yeah but I edited low quality jpg's. It would be different if I had the raw file to edit.

 

[JBPhotog]

Yeah but I edited low quality jpg's. It would be different if I had the raw file to edit.

Actually it wouldn't help much, the level of sharpening that was applied generates halos. Further to that, the intended use would be in JPEG so ultimately the output would display something very similar.