Buying New- Sony A700 or Cannon 50D

[inTempus]

Any OTHER Canon user want to offer some REAL WORLD hands-on experience with their machine, as Tharmsen seems uninterested in actually contributing. The OP is counting on you Canon users!

I guess VI's comments are worthless too. No one contributes to the discussion except little old ANDS!. You're such a narcissist.

What does the OP need with our point of view when he has yours?

 

[Village Idiot]

What in the world is going on in this thread?

Do any of you even own (or have you extensively used) the cameras you're arguing about?

No. I've been exposed.

I found those photos on some one else's Flickr. The only camera I own is the iSight on my Macbook Pro.

 

[mosu84]

No. I've been exposed.

I found those photos on some one else's Flickr. The only camera I own is the iSight on my Macbook Pro.

IMO, a Beginner's forum is not the place to be having a discussion. The OP is trying to distinguish between $3k bodies and he's getting advice from people like tharmsen, who got his camera almost the same day as I got mine and only two months ago posted a thread titled "Where should a complete noob start?" Now, I know tharmsen means well, but I highly doubt that in the past 2 months he has been exposed to all these different bodies that the OP is considering. Moreover, the OP isn't expressing any interest in this little battle between Nikon and Canon users.

 

[inTempus]

IMO, a Beginner's forum is not the place to be having a discussion. The OP is trying to distinguish between $3k bodies and he's getting advice from people like tharmsen, who got his camera almost the same day as I got mine and only two months ago posted a thread titled "Where should a complete noob start?" Now, I know tharmsen means well, but I highly doubt that in the past 2 months he has been exposed to all these different bodies that the OP is considering. Moreover, the OP isn't expressing any interest in this little battle between Nikon and Canon users.

Define "exposed". If by "exposed" you mean "in the presence of", then yes - I have been "exposed" to them. I am fortunate to live near a large city with tons of toy stores. Not all of us live in the sticks.

If by "exposed" you mean owned for a year or more, then no.

What I do have is access to Google, countless reviews and comments from users do own them or shoot them. It doesn't take a genius to repost info from other sources or to point a user in the right direction. Apparently you think this is voodoo.

Would you agree or disagree the debate between Canon vs. Nikon is for the most part pointless? Can you prove to the worlds satisfaction that one is notably superior to the other? I didn't think so. I have not taken part in any battle between Canon and Nikon. I find it funny so many people see these fictitious battles any time the two are mentioned in the same thread. I don't believe one brand is superior to the other. I think they are dead even competitors with slight advantages and disadvantages for both. I've never said otherwise... as a matter of fact, I haven't seen anyone say otherwise in this thread. Humm... so what gives with this imaginary brand war you speak of?

If you don't want to hear my point of view, kindly scroll by.

 

[Village Idiot]

IMO, a Beginner's forum is not the place to be having a discussion. The OP is trying to distinguish between $3k bodies and he's getting advice from people like tharmsen, who got his camera almost the same day as I got mine and only two months ago posted a thread titled "Where should a complete noob start?" Now, I know tharmsen means well, but I highly doubt that in the past 2 months he has been exposed to all these different bodies that the OP is considering. Moreover, the OP isn't expressing any interest in this little battle between Nikon and Canon users.

True, and I've mentioned this before.

It's simply retarded (no offense to those that are) that you have people dishing out advice in these threads because they own one of the cameras mentioned. There was one guy on here reccomending cameras that hadn't even bought one yet himself.

On another forum, one individual posted a reply that an xti with an 18-200 would be the perfect solution to the question "I want to eventually shoot weddings, portraiture, and fashion." The xti person had just got an xti and 18-200 about two weeks before the question was posed.

There are some stupid reccomendations on any photo forum of noobs tossing in their $.02 based on what camera they have. If some one wanted to shoot sports I wouldn't tell them to buy an xti with a kit lens, even though that's one of the bodies I've previously used/owned. I wouldn't even tell them to buy a 5DMKII.

If you happen across the hockey pictures thread and the one linked in my post there, you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

[ANDS!]

Canon on the other hand I think comes in second for "body" but first in bang for your buck.

Canon usually has an answer waiting in the wings - and cheaper.

If I understand correctly, Canon users are borked on some old school lenses

I was going to ask if you could point out the qualifying statements, but then I thought "man, if he is that much of a troll that he willingly is obfuscating the conversation - then yea. . .lemme point it out for those late to the party.

And, if you were paying attention - which you aren't, as you're more interested in scoring the last word - Village's opinion is the EXACT SAME opinion I gave, which - and lemme type this slow - is that the camera, in this users case, is not as important as studio equipment.

I just wanted to see if you are as much as a troll as I think you are. Sadly, I'm usually right.

 

[mosu84]

Define "exposed". If by "exposed" you mean "in the presence of", then yes - I have been "exposed" to them. I am fortunate to live near a large city with tons of toy stores. Not all of us live in the sticks.

If by "exposed" you mean owned for a year or more, then no.

What I do have is access to Google, countless reviews and comments from users do own them or shoot them. It doesn't take a genius to repost info from other sources or to point a user in the right direction. Apparently you think this is voodoo.

Would you agree or disagree the debate between Canon vs. Nikon is for the most part pointless? Can you prove to the worlds satisfaction that one is notably superior to the other? I didn't think so. I have not taken part in any battle between Canon and Nikon. I find it funny so many people see these fictitious battles any time the two are mentioned in the same thread. I don't believe one brand is superior to the other. I think they are dead even competitors with slight advantages and disadvantages for both. I've never said otherwise... as a matter of fact, I haven't seen anyone say otherwise in this thread. Humm... so what gives with this imaginary brand war you speak of?

If you don't want to hear my point of view, kindly scroll by.

1. Take a look at the OP's computer setup and ask yourself if you think this is a kid who doesn't know how to google for reviews. The OP would benefit from hands-on user opinions, which this thread sorely lacks by virtue of it being in the Beginners Forum

2. Of course, Nikon and Canon are dead even in almost all respects, but it's your defensive attitude that often seems to overwhelm the point you are trying to make.

3. I want to read threads like this for information, so it's tough to just "scroll by" your posts when you make 40% of the posts in a thread.

 

[inTempus]

Sadly, I'm usually right.

I would agree with the sad part. The rest is a hallmark trait of a narcissist.

 

[inTempus]

3. I want to read threads like this for information, so it's tough to just "scroll by" your posts when you make 40% of the posts in a thread.

You poor little thing.

 

[Village Idiot]

I would agree with the sad part. The rest is a hallmark trait of a narcissist.

Really? I often make mention to my friends that I'm, "an ****ing genius."

Or that the worst part about being smart is that you know what's going to happen next. That implies that I'm the smart one.

:blushing:

 

[mosu84]

You poor little thing.

You're coming off extremely well in this thread. I'm done with it, but I hope you continue to embarrass yourself.

 

[ANDS!]

Whats sad, is that you COULD summon your spirits and offer a valid critique of your camera body - but you wont, because you'll see that as giving in to the request that I made.

Tsk tsk.

OP, just hop on Photography-On-The.net. Primarily Canon based, but you'll get an honest answer there.

 

[inTempus]

You're coming off extremely well in this thread. I'm done with it, but I hope you continue to embarrass yourself.

Tell ya what, why don't you point out where I went off the deep end with information I was not qualified to quote, repeat or otherwise offer in this thread.

We were talking about ISO noise and I posted images I took as test shots to help illustrate a point. Did you offer any substance such as that in this thread? No. All you've offered is some half baked excuse as to why my posts are worthless in your view.

I commented on the story about Antarctica and said it's hardly a definitive commentary as to why Nikon is superior to Canon. Some disagreed. Would you agree or disagree that the story has little value when trying to decide of you want to buy a 5DMK2, D700, 1D or a D3? I would rather hear a comment regarding this than an ad hominem attack on me because of my lowly status on the board.

What exactly did you contribute to this thread? Exactly.

 

[inTempus]

Whats sad, is that you COULD summon your spirits and offer a valid critique of your camera body - but you wont, because you'll see that as giving in to the request that I made.

Tsk tsk.

Now THAT'S funny given our exchanges in the past. The only guy here with an ego too big to admit fault is you.

 

[inTempus]

Here's a simple test.

I apologize to the OP for my part in steering this thread off course.

ANDS!, you're up next.