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[nycphotography]

Thank you so much to everyone's reply.
You have all given me something to think about.
Main thing to start is a bit more theory, and practice, practice, practice... and when I'm done practicing, I think a little more practice might help...
I like the idea of 2 bodies. It could help the transition from Auto to other modes, especially on a job that a client is paying for... but I'll have to see how kind Santa is at xmas.

Thanks again all.
Fingers crossed.

There is no point having another camera you don't know how to use learn how to use the one you have first

Unless the first one is not available for playing around as it's fully booked making money. In which case there is a point, as the other camera just might be useful as being available to learn with.

 

[gsgary]

Thank you so much to everyone's reply.
You have all given me something to think about.
Main thing to start is a bit more theory, and practice, practice, practice... and when I'm done practicing, I think a little more practice might help...
I like the idea of 2 bodies. It could help the transition from Auto to other modes, especially on a job that a client is paying for... but I'll have to see how kind Santa is at xmas.

Thanks again all.
Fingers crossed.

There is no point having another camera you don't know how to use learn how to use the one you have first

Unless the first one is not available for playing around as it's fully booked making money. In which case there is a point, as the other camera just might be useful as being available to learn with.

If its fully booked how can you play with another camera

 

[nycphotography]

There is no point having another camera you don't know how to use learn how to use the one you have first

Unless the first one is not available for playing around as it's fully booked making money. In which case there is a point, as the other camera just might be useful as being available to learn with.

If its fully booked how can you play with another camera

you're right. the world is binary. good or evil. black or white. there is no gray, no nuance, and time does not exist.

Now that you get to be right, are you happy?

 

[cgipson1]

Thank you so much to everyone's reply.
You have all given me something to think about.
Main thing to start is a bit more theory, and practice, practice, practice... and when I'm done practicing, I think a little more practice might help...
I like the idea of 2 bodies. It could help the transition from Auto to other modes, especially on a job that a client is paying for... but I'll have to see how kind Santa is at xmas.

Thanks again all.
Fingers crossed.

There is no point having another camera you don't know how to use learn how to use the one you have first

Unless the first one is not available for playing around as it's fully booked making money. In which case there is a point, as the other camera just might be useful as being available to learn with.

Lets see.. the OP is stating she barely knows how to use her camera.... so I don't see that having a second body because the first body is " not available for playing around as it's fully booked making money " is in anyway possible! lol!

But then again.. it is in the Aspiring Pro forum... so not knowing how to use a camera is not necessarily an impediment.... I guess!

 

[cgipson1]

There is no point having another camera you don't know how to use learn how to use the one you have first

Unless the first one is not available for playing around as it's fully booked making money. In which case there is a point, as the other camera just might be useful as being available to learn with.

If its fully booked how can you play with another camera

Very true... if all these "PRO's" were busy.. they wouldn't be here saying silly things, would they?

 

[imagemaker46]

It's an aspiring something forum, in this case, not much different than an aspiring amateur with a camera.

 

[nycphotography]

OP said she's shooting the events she's paid to shoot. Doing it in auto mode, but knows she should be learning more / better. But is afraid if she starts fiddling with the camera during said events she may miss the shots she needs to get as it could be in some unknown / not usable state of failed experimentation when she really needs it.

So in the context of those events, that camera is fully booked and is 100% off limits for experimentation.

Thus I suggested a second body... so that expermentation and learning could occur in a risk reduced manner. The second body is not there as a productivity enhances... it's there as an insurance policy.

It's easy to sit here and say "you shouldn't be doing what you're doing because you don't know enough". Yet she obviously knows SOMETHING most people don't because she's able to convince people to pay her to do it. Maybe she doesn't know her camera that great, but she has a great eye for color, composition and capture.

And she came down off her high horse to ask for help in learning. Why can't this forum come down off it's high horse and help w/o the rude obnoxious snarkiness?

 

[Steve5D]

It's easy to sit here and say "you shouldn't be doing what you're doing because you don't know enough". Yet she obviously knows SOMETHING most people don't because she's able to convince people to pay her to do it.

Quoted for truth...

And she came down off her high horse to ask for help in learning. Why can't this forum come down off it's high horse and help w/o the rude obnoxious snarkiness?

Because, by and large, rude and obnoxious is the status quo here...

 

[Tiller]

OP said she's shooting the events she's paid to shoot. Doing it in auto mode, but knows she should be learning more / better. But is afraid if she starts fiddling with the camera during said events she may miss the shots she needs to get as it could be in some unknown / not usable state of failed experimentation when she really needs it.

So in the context of those events, that camera is fully booked and is 100% off limits for experimentation.

Thus I suggested a second body... so that expermentation and learning could occur in a risk reduced manner. The second body is not there as a productivity enhances... it's there as an insurance policy.

It's easy to sit here and say "you shouldn't be doing what you're doing because you don't know enough". Yet she obviously knows SOMETHING most people don't because she's able to convince people to pay her to do it. Maybe she doesn't know her camera that great, but she has a great eye for color, composition and capture.

And she came down off her high horse to ask for help in learning. Why can't this forum come down off it's high horse and help w/o the rude obnoxious snarkiness?

It takes less than 2 seconds to switch from manual to auto mode. It takes at least 5 or 6 to switch bodies.

 

[imagemaker46]

OP said she's shooting the events she's paid to shoot. Doing it in auto mode, but knows she should be learning more / better. But is afraid if she starts fiddling with the camera during said events she may miss the shots she needs to get as it could be in some unknown / not usable state of failed experimentation when she really needs it.

So in the context of those events, that camera is fully booked and is 100% off limits for experimentation.

Thus I suggested a second body... so that expermentation and learning could occur in a risk reduced manner. The second body is not there as a productivity enhances... it's there as an insurance policy.

It's easy to sit here and say "you shouldn't be doing what you're doing because you don't know enough". Yet she obviously knows SOMETHING most people don't because she's able to convince people to pay her to do it. Maybe she doesn't know her camera that great, but she has a great eye for color, composition and capture.

And she came down off her high horse to ask for help in learning. Why can't this forum come down off it's high horse and help w/o the rude obnoxious snarkiness?

You're right, lets give the op the credit she deserves, after all she is getting hired to shoot weddings with a camera that is pre-set so as not to screw anything up. When she gets a second camera then she can play around with it until she learns how to use the first one. Is that about right? But why does she need the second camera if she is already working as a pro and has acquired the colourful eye for capturing composition that everyone else misses by a second.

 

[Steve5D]

But why does she need the second camera if she is already working as a pro and has acquired the colourful eye for capturing composition that everyone else misses by a second.

Because it's an ill-equipped "pro" who doesn't have a back-up...

 

[Steve5D]

OP said she's shooting the events she's paid to shoot. Doing it in auto mode, but knows she should be learning more / better. But is afraid if she starts fiddling with the camera during said events she may miss the shots she needs to get as it could be in some unknown / not usable state of failed experimentation when she really needs it.

So in the context of those events, that camera is fully booked and is 100% off limits for experimentation.

Thus I suggested a second body... so that expermentation and learning could occur in a risk reduced manner. The second body is not there as a productivity enhances... it's there as an insurance policy.

It's easy to sit here and say "you shouldn't be doing what you're doing because you don't know enough". Yet she obviously knows SOMETHING most people don't because she's able to convince people to pay her to do it. Maybe she doesn't know her camera that great, but she has a great eye for color, composition and capture.

And she came down off her high horse to ask for help in learning. Why can't this forum come down off it's high horse and help w/o the rude obnoxious snarkiness?

It takes less than 2 seconds to switch from manual to auto mode. It takes at least 5 or 6 to switch bodies.

Five or six seconds to switch bodies??

 

[Tiller]

It's easy to sit here and say "you shouldn't be doing what you're doing because you don't know enough".

That is the correct thing to say! Should I let somebody work on work on my car that doesn't know how to open the hood?

It's not mean to say she shouldn't be charging for services. If anything, it's nice because we could be saving her from a potential lawsuit.

I would also bet money that she doesn't have a legitimate business set up. Which can also lead to a world of trouble.

 

[gsgary]

OP said she's shooting the events she's paid to shoot. Doing it in auto mode, but knows she should be learning more / better. But is afraid if she starts fiddling with the camera during said events she may miss the shots she needs to get as it could be in some unknown / not usable state of failed experimentation when she really needs it.

So in the context of those events, that camera is fully booked and is 100% off limits for experimentation.

Thus I suggested a second body... so that expermentation and learning could occur in a risk reduced manner. The second body is not there as a productivity enhances... it's there as an insurance policy.

It's easy to sit here and say "you shouldn't be doing what you're doing because you don't know enough". Yet she obviously knows SOMETHING most people don't because she's able to convince people to pay her to do it. Maybe she doesn't know her camera that great, but she has a great eye for color, composition and capture.

And she came down off her high horse to ask for help in learning. Why can't this forum come down off it's high horse and help w/o the rude obnoxious snarkiness?

But doing this she would miss the split second shots that other photographers cant catch but she can

 

[nycphotography]

It's easy to sit here and say "you shouldn't be doing what you're doing because you don't know enough".

That is the correct thing to say! Should I let somebody work on work on my car that doesn't know how to open the hood?

It's not mean to say she shouldn't be charging for services. If anything, it's nice because we could be saving her from a potential lawsuit.

I would also bet money that she doesn't have a legitimate business set up. Which can also lead to a world of trouble.

No it is not the correct thing to say. It is rude and presumptuous of you to give that answer in that way.

While it may be correct from YOUR point of view, it is not correct from HER point of view and you already know as much from the context established w/ the original question.

Your refusal to put it in terms that respects her point of view and could actually help her to consider the idea... generally indicates that you are not saying it in a genuine attempt to be helpful.

Rather it generally indicates that you (and you, and you there) are saying it just to be an ass.

It is seldom correct to be rude.