critique thread

photogoddess · Mar 10, 2004

vonnagy - Where did you get that emoticon? I LOVE it! :badangel:

I have to agree with you, it's been REALLY interesting here lately!

oriecat · Mar 11, 2004

This is all so very deja vu...

tr0gd0o0r · Mar 14, 2004

Well, i finally got around to actually reading the thread that birthed this one and i think my view has changed. I hink a critique section would be good idea for this forum to help it and the members grow

markc · Mar 14, 2004

I don't feel strongly about it myself, but I do like the idea. I don't think anyone wants to say "I just want to hear good things". That isn't exactly what encouragement is about, but some people may feel funny about it enough that they would rather not post than ask people to go easy on a critique. If there were two forums, then it would simply be a matter of posting it in the right one and nothing would have to be said. Rather than a critique forum and a encouragement forum, it would be more like one for critiques, and one for just saying "Hey, look at this. I think it's neat." Sort of like the theme threads are now.

Heck, since anyone can start a theme thread, maybe just use the two current forums and only rename and redefine them slightly.

karissa · Mar 14, 2004

I like the idea however you go about achieving it. Renaming or describing or making a whole new one all together. Kinda like Light critique section and... make you cry brutal critique sections. :lol:

voodoocat · Mar 14, 2004

If there was a critique forum there would have to be more restrictions.. Like only one or 2 photos to be critiqued. These posts with a million photos could stay in the gallery.

karissa · Mar 14, 2004

Voo has a point. It is hard to think about 20 photos in one posting. It is nice when you can study and reply to pict.

wwjoeld · Mar 31, 2004

i come here to have my photos looked at and when they are only on the front board for a half an hour because of the over posts i get tired of wasting my time posting them, we need a critique forum please!!!!!!

manda · Apr 1, 2004

This is a good point wwjoeld.
The same reason that we asked people not to post a lot of threads at once for separate photos.
The gallery forum moves very quickly and threads dont stay on the first page for long at all.

I must admit that sometimes I will post something just for the hell of it, and get a shock when I come back to find everyone pointing out what I did wrong lol
But thats just me, Im a sensitive sook who doesnt cope well with criticism.

Chase · Apr 1, 2004

I'm sold that a critique forum is a good thing. I'll be putting one together soon and we'll set up some basic guidelines for it.

MDowdey · Apr 1, 2004

Ok here is my 2 pence worth

I like the idea, but it could get out of hand quickly. as voodoo said, we should limit it to 2 pics...such as "should i do this?" "or this?"

There needs to be set guidelines and the critique should be brutal, forthcoming and laced with obvious tips for improvement of the shot or shots...

ok, im done...

md

Chase · Apr 1, 2004

Ok, let's pull together opinions on this.

Please submit your suggestions for guidelines to help keep the focus in this new forum section. Some points to consider are limiting number of photos per post and limiting how often the same person should post.

Let us know your thoughts.

tr0gd0o0r · Apr 1, 2004

I'd agree limiting both one picture per post (unless its as MD says about this or that) and limit the # of posts a person can make we don't have like 10 posts from the same person. Also I think a sticky that has guidlines for a critique may be helpful

motcon · Apr 1, 2004

tr0gd0o0r said:
I'd agree limiting both one picture per post ..... Also I think a sticky that has guidlines for a critique may be helpful

while i'm here sipping a beer, i'll chime in on this topic.

i think the purpose of the want of critique is get an opinion of the photographic eye, NOT the photograph. there's a difference.

'i like the reds and the texture of the boards is really cool'

'the reds are nice, but overpower the photo as they take up the majority of the frame. the texture of the boards is a nice detail. i think that moving them to the left a bit would balance the photo a bit more. you may want to try rating x-brand film at ei-n; you'll find the shadows are much more defined.'

big difference.

a true critique is feedback on the vision, process, etc. of the photographer exemplified in a photograph.

that said, the reason i've stopped posting is because i ASK for critique and a few do critique, but then it gets lost in the 'look what i did' posts. those that obsess over a photograph, working on it for hours until it strikes the right chord and want critique , well, they want critique because they are willing to invest hours more back into that photograph if need be.

i agree with the one image per post thought for reasons aforementioned. i would've welcomed days of critique on the last two posts that i made simply because i can't afford to live in my head only. i need the opinions of others.

further to this, a knowledge base is in the making when serious, varied critiques are posted.

photogoddess · Apr 4, 2004

There is a place to put the "show me" photos - which I think is fantastic but I think it would be nice to have a thread for anyone wanting a serious critique. So, that said, I am all for a separate thread. Personally, I would like to have a brutally honest critique if I were to post an image there. I, like Motcon, can not be the sole view of my work. I just think that people need to be prepared for that kind of a critique if they post within that thread.