Crop Sensors vs Full Frame :: Crop Or Crap?

[goodguy]

The first time I tried full frame sensor the difference was very obvious and real.
If you mostly shoot in the 3 digit ISO then FF isnt so important but once you go for the 4 digits its important!
I agree with what was said here, sensor size should be used according to the users needs, in portrait its really more about light and not sensor size, on the other hand street photography when you shoot hand held in different lighting conditions FF will have a big advantage.

 

[robbins.photo]

Did the stuffed squirrel have any meaning?

I'm pretty sure he was the smart one in the video.

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[table1349]

Let's Get Ready To Rumbbbeeeellllllllllllll.
Your main event of the evening is a 5 round bout for the photo info Championship of the Wwooorrrlld. Fighting out of the red corner with a record of nine wins, three losses and one draw, Zack "the gotee" Ariasssssss...... And fighting out of the blue corner with a record of eight wins, 5 losses, Ken" the blogger" Rockwelllll.....

The referee for this bout is Big Ansel Adams.

 

[pixmedic]

Let's Get Ready To Rumbbbeeeellllllllllllll.
Your main event of the evening is a 5 round bout for the photo info Championship of the Wwooorrrlld. Fighting out of the red corner with a record of nine wins, three losses and one draw, Zack "the gotee" Ariasssssss...... And fighting out of the blue corner with a record of eight wins, 5 losses, Ken" the blogger" Rockwelllll.....

The referee for this bout is Big Ansel Adams.

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[Derrel]

Wait,wait,wait...who remembers Zack's , "Why I went medium format," period, when his Canon 5D-II was simply not good enough????

Phase One IQ140 A quick walk around:

Why I Moved To Medium Format :: Phase One IQ140 Review • Photography By Zack Arias • ATL • 404-939-2263 • studio@zackarias.com

A couple of months ago, I saw the Zack Arias fashion/portrait shots on the official Fuji site for one of the X-cameras they make...even at the largest sized downloadable sample images they offered, the actual amount of genuine, REAL, actual detail in the studio-lighted portrait type images was dismal...really, really POOR compared to 24 MP Nikon/Sony full frame images I shoot myself with my own camera, and pathetic compared against the 36-MP Nikon D800 series files I've worked with.

Half-body, studio flash lighted images from the Fuji X he was using looked poor to me...no REAL detail, just "the impression of detail"...very little actual, real, true, fine detail--the kind of stuff retouching is done on, the kind of fine details that allow an image to be cropped, the kind of detail that allows for large prints or on landscapes, which gives a sense of realism. The 16-MP X-trans sensor really is weak on fine, fine, plentiful detail that the larger sensors have. YES, the color is nice, but we can all see that the 16-MP Nikon D7000's image quality is no longer what we'd call high-quality, and that's a Bayer array sensor that does better with fine detail than the X-trans Fuji sensors he and others are touting.

There's a strange logic (missing) in trying to convince people that 16 million pixels is every bit as good as 24 million, or 36 million, or 42 million pixels for every kind of photography.

I do not care who the person is, when a guy tries to convince me that another 8 million pixels makes NO difference, or that another 20 million additional pixels means "nothing". That's just bullsH*+.

The idea that there is no difference is simply, not true...and in fact the SAME GUY was preaching the exact, polar opposite message not that long ago.

 

[Overread17 5]

You know I'm thinking on doing a rules swap and swapping "NO Brand wars discussions" with "NO Sensor format size discussions"


Still I like to think this means we've advanced as a people, as a community and as a nation in that we've advanced past the brand wars and into the sensor format size wars (even though that just means we are engaging in brand wars under a different title

 

[pixmedic]

I am so so glad I don't shoot for anyone else anymore. I can actually just sit back and enjoy my fuji camera without worrying whether it will be "good enough" or not.

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[robbins.photo]

I am so so glad I don't shoot for anyone else anymore. I can actually just sit back and enjoy my fuji camera without worrying whether it will be "good enough" or not.

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If it's good enough for you, then who cares what anybody else thinks. It's your camera, right?

As for me I like my 7100. It works pretty well for the kind of photography I do most. Cameras are not a one size fits all proposition, thank goodness.

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[nerwin]

I'm quite happy with my D610, but It's no iPhone 6.

 

[Solarflare]

I remember Zack Arias medium format stuff ... IIRC that was the first thing I read from the guy.

Personally I'm pretty much simply "meh" on Megapixels. I want a full frame with 12 Megapixel and insane high ISO, and I would be happy.

Maybe one day a digital medium format with more Megapixels, but for full frame I think 12 Megapixels are perfectly sufficient.

I much rather have better Megapixels, than more Megapixels.

 

[Braineack]

why settle?!

 

[pixmedic]

why settle?!

ive been asking my wife that for 22 years.
still havent gotten an answer.

 

[bribrius]

meh. For the average user most of this is more sales consumerism and advertising as most of the camera sales , i think such arguments only matter to those that actually have the knowledge and purpose to take advantage of selective models strong points despite and including the sensor.

 

[Wasp1]

I have never really understood the difference between the 2.
I was told once that a full frame sensor gives you more in your photos.
Sort of like what you are looking at through your view finder is what you get.
While the cropped sensor cut a little more out of what you actually see.
But if this is the case I don't mind as I have not missed any information in a shot that I have taken.
So this leaves me still not fully knowing but I really couldn't care too much.
If I had to replace my camera I know it wouldn't be a factor in buying a new one.
If it happened that the camera I wanted had one in it then so be it but I know for a fact, I will always be an amateur in photography, as its what I like to do.

 

[astroNikon]

I have never really understood the difference between the 2.
I was told once that a full frame sensor gives you more in your photos.
Sort of like what you are looking at through your view finder is what you get.
While the cropped sensor cut a little more out of what you actually see.
But if this is the case I don't mind as I have not missed any information in a shot that I have taken.
So this leaves me still not fully knowing but I really couldn't care too much.
If I had to replace my camera I know it wouldn't be a factor in buying a new one.
If it happened that the camera I wanted had one in it then so be it but I know for a fact, I will always be an amateur in photography, as its what I like to do.

I never really understood it until I bought a FF and had my APS-C at the same time (D7000 & D600) then it was obvious.

It was like DOF. I never really saw any difference between f/5 and f/6.3 on my kit lens. Then I bought a 50/1.8 and then I saw the difference from f/1.8 to f/5.6 then the steps in between became much more visible to me once I saw a larger deviation. Now I can see minor DOF issues, whereas they were oblivious to me before.