Engagement Ring-Feedback?

[Ernicus]

Sorry, but they are all terrible.

Appreciate the feedback and advice. However, I do not appreciate the rudeness. If you don't like them, fine. I'm okay with that. I asked for feedback and that's what you gave me, but must you be so rude? Is that really necessary? I'm LEARNING. That's why I posted here. Just because you said "sorry" before your rude comment, doesn't mean what you say next isn't going to hurt. It's like when people say, "no offense," and you know what they say next is going to offend you. I know not everyone is going to like my photos and I am perfectly okay with that. I don't like all the photos I see either.

I'm not really sure where I was rude, maybe before lashing out and calling someone rude you should stop to think "am I being sensitive?". I feel I gave honest feedback on my thoughts. I won't apologize if it hurt your feelings, simply because I am not sorry for stating my feelings in a direct manner to which I gave my reasons for my dislike. Nor do I feel it was discouraging at all as I even empathized with your ideals with what you were trying to accomplish, whereas others did not.

Calling a spade a spade isn't rude. It is what it is, and I feel they are terrible. However, that is just my opinion...so no worries. And if you really read what I wrote, you'll see I said the composition is what I felt was terrible, and I stand by my statement.

My advice would be to put your pride away and don't expect all flowers and roses. If someone tells me a picture of mine is ugly, I don't get butthurt, I try to figure out why they feel that way.

 

[unpopular]

You know, laynea, if you're at all serious, you'll look back on this and wonder WTF you were thinking. It's better if you don't get too emotional about it. Being overly attached to your work is the first step to a lonely road of self-delusion.

 

[Ernicus]

You know, laynea, if you're at all serious, you'll look back on this and wonder WTF you were thinking. It's better if you don't get too emotional about it. Being overly attached to your work is the first step to a lonely road of self-delusion.

very true, and if all you have to work on is composition...you are way ahead of the game compared to lots of folks.

 

[laynea24]

I'm not really sure where I was rude, maybe before lashing out and calling someone rude you should stop to think "am I being sensitive?". I feel I gave honest feedback on my thoughts. I won't apologize if it hurt your feelings, simply because I am not sorry for stating my feelings in a direct manner to which I gave my reasons for my dislike. Nor do I feel it was discouraging at all as I even empathized with your ideals with what you were trying to accomplish, whereas others did not.

Calling a spade a spade isn't rude. It is what it is, and I feel they are terrible. However, that is just my opinion...so no worries. And if you really read what I wrote, you'll see I said the composition is what I felt was terrible, and I stand by my statement.

My advice would be to put your pride away and don't expect all flowers and roses. If someone tells me a picture of mine is ugly, I don't get butthurt, I try to figure out why they feel that way.

Right. And like I said, I appreciate the feedback and advice. I found the second line of your post rude. That's my opinion. Have a great night.

 

[laynea24]

You know, laynea, if you're at all serious, you'll look back on this and wonder WTF you were thinking. It's better if you don't get too emotional about it. Being overly attached to your work is the first step to a lonely road of self-delusion.

I am a woman. Of course I'm emotional. I am not overly attached to theses photos. We're getting together to do more at a different location soon and I'm going to do new ring pictures with better composition. I'm listening to all the advice here. I just felt like the beginning of his post was unnecessary.

 

[SCraig]

I agree about the composition now that it has been mentioned. I just don't see why people have to be rude. Thank you!

That wasn't rude. Stick around a while and you'll get to see rude though, it comes out somewhere just about every day.

Words of advice: Look at all of the requests for C&C on these forums. Every day. Day in, day out. We aren't your family and if you ask for critique that's pretty much what you're going to get. We normally don't sugar coat it, we normally tell it like it is. There are a lot of very talented photographers on this forum, I'm not one of them, and if you stick around you'll get better. If you have thin skin and take everything to heart it's going to be tough.

Most of the comments are valid. The backgrounds are distracting and the eye wanders to everything except the subject. The ring is hidden in front of that big bulb in the first, the subject is the boot in the second, and the third and fourth have big bright spots that draw the eye away from the ring. Not much to be done with the first two. The last one I would have done like this:

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Ya...pictures between friends are all fair game IMO...but some of the criticism above is valid, for sure. I think you could vary the composition to put more attention on the ring.
Note: Careful posting here with all the pros. Some are very experienced photographers with strong opinions...and generally give great feedback, but are not always as gentle as you would like. Good luck!

How do you gently tell someone their images are bad?

OP, stop telling people they are rude. Wake up and smell the boring flowers.

 

[Ernicus]

Nice crop craig, kinda what I was thinking along the lines of on that one myself.

 

[unpopular]

Ya...pictures between friends are all fair game IMO

What a load of crapola (rude enough?). Who the client is, your relationship with the client and if there is a client or not has no bearing on the value or success of an image.

 

[laynea24]

That wasn't rude. Stick around a while and you'll get to see rude though, it comes out somewhere just about every day.

Words of advice: Look at all of the requests for C&C on these forums. Every day. Day in, day out. We aren't your family and if you ask for critique that's pretty much what you're going to get. We normally don't sugar coat it, we normally tell it like it is. There are a lot of very talented photographers on this forum, I'm not one of them, and if you stick around you'll get better. If you have thin skin and take everything to heart it's going to be tough.

Most of the comments are valid. The backgrounds are distracting and the eye wanders to everything except the subject. The ring is hidden in front of that big bulb in the first, the subject is the boot in the second, and the third and fourth have big bright spots that draw the eye away from the ring. Not much to be done with the first two. The last one I would have done like this:

Thanks. I like that crop.

 

[Ernicus]

Ya...pictures between friends are all fair game IMO

What a load of crapola (rude enough?). Who the client is, your relationship with the client and if there is a client or not has no bearing on the value or success of an image.

lol, I think you two are saying the same thing only differently DonkeyMan. At least that's how I took his statement anyway. lol

 

[YoungPhotoGirl]

Ignore the rudeness and take the advice.
I have found almost everyone here doesn't word things as nicely as they could but ignore it, its not worth fighting back

 

[laynea24]

Ignore the rudeness and take the advice.
I have found almost everyone here doesn't word things as nicely as they could but ignore it, its not worth fighting back

I'm starting to see that. Thanks. I wasn't trying to pick a fight... That worked out well, eh? Haha

 

[Ernicus]

Ignore the rudeness and take the advice.
I have found almost everyone here doesn't word things as nicely as they could but ignore it, its not worth fighting back

Or realize that ones perception of rude could be flawed. I mean really...all I said was the comp was terrible. I could have been rude...and I believe I was far from it. If I had replaced that one word "terrible" with "not so great" would I then not have been rude? Replacing a single word with many words that ultimately mean the same is silly. It's all quite comical actually. While my advice may not be the greatest...I can see it was wasted nonetheless. Sad really, I thought I had some valid points...too bad they were overshadowed with rudeness. I'm such a terrible person. Guess I'll go back to look at boring flowers in the nature gallery now....I almost forgot I was in the professional gallery where photographs were to be held to a higher standard.

/rudeness

 

[laynea24]

Or realize that ones perception of rude could be flawed. I mean really...all I said was the comp was terrible. I could have been rude...and I believe I was far from it. If I had replaced that one word "terrible" with "not so great" would I then not have been rude? Replacing a single word with many words that ultimately mean the same is silly. It's all quite comical actually. While my advice may not be the greatest...I can see it was wasted nonetheless. Sad really, I thought I had some valid points...too bad they were overshadowed with rudeness. I'm such a terrible person. Guess I'll go back to look at boring flowers in the nature gallery now....I almost forgot I was in the professional gallery where photographs were to be held to a higher standard.

Your advice wasn't wasted. I took your advice. I didn't say your whole post was rude.