Exposure compensation

[subscuck]

I already said why. Its so nikon people can laugh at you when you forget its on and all your photos come out badly exposed and your whole shoot is ruined.

Unless of course you're someone with more experience/knowledge than Kbarredo and you know how to read a histogram and routinely check it every time the light changes.

 

[Derrel]

I don't know what Kerbouchard is saying, but I called Nikon and asked their technical support people what exactly would change.

THis is not the normal question and it took some time but they came back and told me , that the chip makes the correct internally. Neither the fstop or shutter speeds changes.

When one sets Exposure Comp on a Nikon d-slr, it simply moves the Zero point, or the "suggested correct exposure" point; the current Nikon exposure metering system does not really "reflect" that EC is being used in Manual mode. This allows the user to fine-tune the meter in his or her camera, to account for any number of variables, such as say the desire to under-expose by X.X Evposure Value to compensate for say, a sticky lens diaphragm, the need to over-expose to get a more-generous flash exposure, or to "correct" or "calibrate" the metering system so that the Zero Point reflects the desired correct indicated exposure. If the photographer desired additional over-or under-exposure, it makes it easy to add the needed amount by deliberately mis-setting the meter using the +/- scales and the LED's.

My 135 f/2 DC is exceptionally "bright", and tends to over-expose...it needs a "Baseline Exposure Correction". In manual mode, I can dial in my Minus Compensation, and then am free to adjust exposures as needed, without having to constantly mentally juggle the baseline correction that lens needs AND ADDITIONAL exposure adjustment.

 

[kundalini]

highjack

My 135 f/2 DC is exceptionally "bright", and tends to over-expose...it needs a "Baseline Exposure Correction".

I was looking at reviews of this very lens (again) today. I'm thinking this over the 85mm f/1.4.

/highjack

 

[ann]

That I don't know how to ask a question or understood the answer.

Again, I didn't say that your understanding of the function was incorrect. I was responding to what I felt was a rude comment about my ability to ask a question that could be understood and understand the reply. Now where is the ignore button on this site. Your fun is done in my sphere of interest.

 

[Derrel]

That I don't know how to ask a question or understood the answer.

Again, I didn't say that your understanding of the function was incorrect. I was responding to what I felt was a rude comment about my ability to ask a question that could be understood and understand the reply. Now where is the ignore button on this site. Your fun is done in my sphere of interest.

My comment above was meant to illuminate what Ann had referenced earlier; I think what the Nikon tech was trying to tell her correlates with her understanding,and my understanding, of how Nikon's manual match-diode exposure metering works whenever EC is set.

as to the 135 DC lens...it's a pretty good optic. Four summerd ago, I used the 135 DC on my Canon 5D, side-by-side with the Canon 135-f/2-L series lens, on the same body, same subjects, and switched back and forth all day long, and then looked at the images a week later...I could not really tell much difference between the two lenses in terms of performance. The thing about the 135mm focal length on FF is that it is **significantly** longer in focal length than the 85mm/1.4 is, and it puts more of a visual "impression" on the images, due to the more OOF nature of foreground objects, and then a much more-rapid transition to the OOF zone than you see with an 85mm lens when shot on FF.

On APS-C, which I have used since 2001, ther 135mm length is pretty difficult to deploy in MANY in door and outdoor locations...the angle of view is so narrow, and the camera-to-subject distance is sooooooo long on APS-C, that the depth of field transition from OOF/focus band/OOF is not nearly as pronounced, due to the 1) distance and 2) smaller capture format and 3) deeper DOF per angle of view.

I grew up with 135mm telephotos, and have owned a BUNCH of them, from crappy pre-set $19.95 (seriously), to the Series E 135/2.8, the 135/2.8 QC Auto Nikkor, 135 f/2 Ai-S, 135 f/2.8 Ai-S, and the Canon 135-2 L and 135 f/2.8 Canon Soft Focus. Many people have never used a 135mm prime on FF...it really,really comes in to its own on a FF Camera...the 135mm focal length is kind of teats on a boar on APS-C, IMHO. In terms of "look" or visual "impression", the 135mm f/2 Defocus Control is a fine,fine lens. It does have some longitudinal CA on extreme subjects when shot at f/2 and f/2.8, and that is its main weakness.

 

[Kerbouchard]

That I don't know how to ask a question or understood the answer.

Again, I didn't say that your understanding of the function was incorrect. I was responding to what I felt was a rude comment about my ability to ask a question that could be understood and understand the reply. Now where is the ignore button on this site. Your fun is done in my sphere of interest.

Before your last rant, you started off a reply to a beginner who was asking about exposure compensation with, "I don't know what kerbouchard is talking about, but" Then you implied you spoke with Nikon customer service and got the correct answer. Everything I have posted in this thread is accurate. You either asked a different question than the one you replied to, you referring to me was pointless, or your understanding of this subject is limited(which would explain you calling customer service in the first place).

In any case, to ignore me, click on my name, goto view profile, and then 'add to ignore list'. It's the third item down on the left column...see, I told you I was helpful.

 

[The_Traveler]

In any case, to ignore me, click on my name, goto view profile, and then 'add to ignore list'. It's the third item down on the left column...see, I told you I was helpful.

Well, this wasn't helpful.
If she is ignoring you by not reading the posts, she won't have the opportunity to read how to ignore you electronically..
I guess that she would be working in manual and not using 'exposure compensation.' :lmao:

 

[Kerbouchard]

In any case, to ignore me, click on my name, goto view profile, and then 'add to ignore list'. It's the third item down on the left column...see, I told you I was helpful.

Well, this wasn't helpful.
If she is ignoring you by not reading the posts, she won't have the opportunity to read how to ignore you electronically..
I guess that she would be working in manual and not using 'exposure compensation.' :lmao:

Well, I can't help it if Ann doesn't read my post about where the ignore button is so that she can put me on ignore.

 

[kundalini]

ann is one of the nice ones on TPF. Knowledgable, helpful and kind. She is also an instructor. Her speaking with Nikon seems appropriate. Please take a deep breath and then take a step back.

 

[Kerbouchard]

ann is one of the nice ones on TPF. Knowledgable, helpful and kind. She is also an instructor. Her speaking with Nikon seems appropriate. Please take a deep breath and then take a step back.

I don't know Ann from Adam. This thread is old. The question had been asked and answered. Everything I posted was accurate. I don't appreciate somebody calling into question the information I provide without providing some sort of info to back it up. Saying that they talked to a Nikon Rep and that they don't know what I am talking about gets my back up. I asked for clarification, and Ann said what I said was correct. So, it seems to have been a simple misunderstanding.

Fine, it happens. But when I provide info, it is accurate, or I qualify it with a statement that what follows is my opinion. I take pride in providing accurate info, in my work place, in normal day to day conversations, and, yes, even in online forums. If somebody calls my credibility into question, I expect them to back it up. Period. I don't care if she is one of the nice ones on TPF.

Look, I'm not the most artistic on this forum. I don't always know how to offer encouragement to people who are struggling with a concept and I'm not always the nicest, but I always provide accurate information to the best of my knowledge. If that knowledge is flawed, I expect somebody who questions it to point out what is wrong and give me a link so that I can educate myself so that I don't make that mistake in the future.

Ann called my posts into question and provided nothing to back it up. Heck, she had to call tech support to figure out an answer. If she wants to offer her opinion, or, in this case, tech supports opinion, leave me out of it.

Fine, I shouldn't get upset when somebody on a forum questions my opinion...but I do, and I will continue to do so. I will also continue to point out how that person is wrong and why. I gave her an opportunity to point out anything I said that was factually inacurate so that I could make sure we were on the same page and we could both learn something. Instead, she decided she wanted to put me on ignore. Good riddance.

 

[kundalini]

Now where is the ignore button on this site.

Ohhhh, I found it.

 

[Derrel]

tou·ché/to͞oˈSHā/Exclamation
1. (in fencing) Used as an acknowledgment of a hit by one's opponent.
2. Used as an acknowledgment during a discussion of a good or clever point made at one's expense by another person.




douché
The acknowledgement of an accusation, or a point made by someone you consider to be a douche bag.
Accented E: pronounced dew/shay


Teacher: "It's no wonder that we don't communicate, when your grammar is incomprehensible."


Student: "Douché."

 

[RichardsTPF]

All your posts are very helpful except those BS argument. As a newbie, I am learning Aperture and Shutter modes (haven't get to M yet). I got the same question while reading the manual.
"In shutter priority, it will change aperture if it can based one lens limitations
In aperture priority, it will change shutter speed possibly leading to motion blur."
Can I see this EV as an additional option when I am not satisfied with my exposure at current setting.
For example,at aperture priority, after set aperture and ISO, I want more exposure. Not able to change the shutter speed at this mode, or to make it faster than switching to manual mode, I use EV.
Can I do that? Hope I explain myself clear enough.

 

[Kerbouchard]

Yes, this is exactly what exposure compensation is used for. If you are in one of the automated modes, Program, Aperture Priority, or Shutter Priority, then you are picking one of the variables and allowing the camera to pick the other one based on what it thinks is the correct exposure. If you are not happy with the exposure level that the camera picks, you use exposure compensation to either tell the camera to make the scene brighter(positive) or darker(negative exposure comp).

Exposure compensation allows you to tell the camera how you want it to expose the scene, so it will influence the decision that the camera makes for your other variables.

All your posts are very helpful except those BS argument. As a newbie, I am learning Aperture and Shutter modes (haven't get to M yet). I got the same question while reading the manual.
"In shutter priority, it will change aperture if it can based one lens limitations
In aperture priority, it will change shutter speed possibly leading to motion blur."
Can I see this EV as an additional option when I am not satisfied with my exposure at current setting.
For example,at aperture priority, after set aperture and ISO, I want more exposure. Not able to change the shutter speed at this mode, or to make it faster than switching to manual mode, I use EV.
Can I do that? Hope I explain myself clear enough.

 

[RichardsTPF]

Thx. Is there any thread there suggest how to set ISO? I try to search it in TPF, didn't find one yet.