First attempt at Portrait Lighting - cc plz

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  1. SquarePeg

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    Thanks for your detailed feedback. Much appreciated!

    Thanks for taking the time to look at them in LR. I should have elaborated in my initial posting that I set out to copy a certain dark fashion portrait look that I’d seen done in a Creative Live tutorial. It was a dark haired model in a sleeveless black top against a black background. The actual background they used was gray but they used grids to keep the light from hitting it. I tried to do it without grids by moving away from the background but didn’t get far enough out. Also, didn’t expect the sheet to show up so didn’t bother ironing it!

    I’ll have to download the raw files to my laptop and try your suggestions. Again thanks for the detailed response.


     
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    One issue that might have made things tough for you was the use of continuous lighting. With continuous lights, the exposure settings are often a rather slowish shutter time, and a moderate to wide aperture value, like say from 1/20 second to maybe 1/40 second at ISO 400 and an f/stop ranging from f/2.8 to perhaps f/4.8 or something in that general range; that means that, quite often, the exposure triangle (speed,aperture,and ISO level) creates a background that registers pretty clearly...revealing the wrinkles in the sheet for example, at an exposure that is correct for the face.

    If on Creative Live they were using flash illumination, it would have been pretty easy for them to "drive down" the backdrop value all the way to black, in a way that's much harder to do with continuous lights of low to normal power levels during daylight hours. With flash at say f/8 at 1/200 second at ISO 100, almost anything indoors under the normal room lights gets verrrry dark!
     
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    This is a great thread! I'm learning a lot.
     
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    I was shooting at f3.6, ISO 200 and around 1/250 give it take a stop on either side.

    The CL video used only continuous light in the studio but they had much larger soft boxes and also a couple of other lights - one she kept calling a barn door and another was an octobox I think. It was a “live” one so can’t rewatch it now but it was excellent.
     
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    Ok, tried to take in the excellent advice and feedback from everyone. Again thanks so much to all who responded for taking the time to look and to share your comments and knowledge. I couldn’t reshoot due to time constraints today but I did re-edit another from that session taking your advice and suggestions into account. Would love any additional critique or comments that you care to share.

    White balance warmer - check
    Bump to exposure and highlights for a glow - check?
    Slight bump to contrast - check
    Desaturated weird neon color in lips - check
    Leave black point alone - check
    Leave background light enough to show hair - check (although I don’t care for the way it came out when I tried to hide the wrinklesin the sheet)
    Show more detail in shadows of hair - check
    Eyes lighter - check
    Necklace straightened - check
    No weirdly placed or cut off hands - check

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    It's still short lighting, though. Try one in broad light.
     
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    Do you have an example I can look at?
     
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    @D
    I got to go read my books, but I thought broad lighting was lighting the face, head on.
    It seems like the subject is pretty much facing the primary light source.
    I shoot very little studio portrait, and get confused by some of the lighting terms. So I may be completely wrong.
    Now to go look for my lighting books.

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    GOOD job.
    I like the centered pendant, it is no longer a visual distraction.
    BTW, I was taught by a portrait photographer, that we all think the big stuff (clothes, pose, etc), but it is the little stuff that will subtly detract from a good photo. And you have to have the eye to see and catch those small stuff. I wish I paid more attention to how he worked. He had a better eye for that stuff than I ever will.​
    I like how the hair separates from the background.
    This used to be a bug of mine. In black and white, dark brunette hair would blend into dark green plants. That was hard for us to plan for, as we had a hard time visualizing a color scene in B&W. I was burnt MANY times by this mistake.​
     
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    Thanks for your comments. Going to have to pay more attention to detail so there'll be less to fix in post.
     

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