Bitter Jeweler
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When I first started posting here, if someone posted a photo for C&C, you could usually, within the first 2 or 3 replies get some honest and direct feedback on your photo. A trend I've seen lately, as highlighted by some recent threads (that I will not mention here) is saying "Good job!" or "Nice Shot!" to what can be called mediocre, or even bad photographs. The justification to this is usually one of two things...
I agree 100% with what you are saying. With that said, I have seen several threads where somebody, usually somebody new or less experienced posts, looking for C&C and usually the "experienced"/"professional" members of this group come across arrogant and rude. In my honest opinion this slows/deters newer members, like myself from posting pictures that they take. If newer members post and keep getting the rude and arrogant replies, chances are they will never improve. I do not mean to offend anybody, this is just my opinion.
manaheim said:It's fascinating to see how cyclical a big internet community like this can be. I swear someone should write a thesis on this or something.
Do a search and look for "The Pact". It's ... very similar in many respects ... and by no means was it the first attempt at this sort of discussion.
Quite interesting.
Interesting thread Gaerek but I see the problem as a bit more complicated. C&C is an art in itself and can take as long to learn as shooting photos and it needs to be learned under the guidance of a more experienced person or persons. I believe it can be done here by learning to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just blowing hot air.
But that is not easy either when you're new to the medium. Not to mention that we have members who are more technical than artistic and others who are more artistic than technical and the two can clash.
Frankly, the two biggest problems I see that you didn't mention are the newbies who have just learned about a particular rule and think it should always apply. For example, I post a photo with a centered subject and it works just fine but Mr. Newbies has just learned about the rule of 3rds so he will tell me to use the RoT...
The second one is people who have made some serious progress in one or two areas of photo and get a lot of thumbs up. But then they post a bad photo and they just can't take it when it is pointed out to them that it is not good because they've gotten the big head.
As it has been pointed out, the people who could most benefit from this thread are the least likely to read it.
In the meantime, I just C&C and not worry too much about it. But, I do avoid some people who I know can't take reality or are not interested in it. Also, and it is not the main reason I don't post images, I would not want to subject myself to C&C here by people who don't know what they are talking about. And please, don't anybody get me wrong, I am not saying that nobody here knows what they are talking about, just that the percentage of people who do is way smaller than that of people who don't.
I know it's a pretty complicated problem, but I figured it was worth a shot at distilling it down.
c.cloudwalker said:You need a bit of a thick skin. C&C is not always pleasant no matter how nicely things are said
c.cloudwalker said:You need a bit of a thick skin. C&C is not always pleasant no matter how nicely things are said
QFT
I think this is the crux of the problem. People don't want to hear that there's something wrong with their photo. Unfortunately, you need to hear the bad to get better.