Discussion in 'General Shop Talk' started by Forkie, Feb 16, 2011.
Finally someone said what I was thinking.
I don't get why it's such a sin around here to not hire a pro, when that gets done in so many other professional fields too.
Heck, when I was 15 me and a buddy mowed lawns for local businesses who didn't want the cost of professional lawn maintenance. I never heard any local lawn care services balk about my piss poor work, and the customers were happy.
What's the problem if the end product pleases the customer?
Even here at my current job we have lower quality presses, and higher quality presses. Some customers demand the high quality, some don't care and just want to save money.
Well you and I sir are one of the same! I too am a product photographer. When I started this position two years ago I literally knew nothing of photography. not even the basics but I knew some photoshop and B.S.ed my way through an interview and got the job. I then spent every moment of my freetime for the next three weeks in the bookstore researching photography "thank you Light Science and Magic" along with many other books. so now even though the company I work for owns most of my product shots I have a pretty impresive portfolio and can brag about all the magizines my images have been in to my friends!
Further more I get to use ALL of the photography equiptment for my personal use and projects and have learned a ton while getting paid! Gotta love it!
Lots of RAWR!!! in this thread.
Congrats on the job. It's a start and you should be proud of that.
Back on topic: I fell into photography as a part of my part-time writing jobs. I started out blogging for free, realized other bloggers got paid, and applied at CreativeWeblogging and got hired on at like $7.00 per post writing about family-based motorsports recreation.
I was able to leverage that to get track access to some CORRacing events and other motorsports things, which increasingly encouraged me to get better camera equipment.
That helped me land my first international print magazine gig with ATV Magazine, my first internet magazine gig with ATV Source Magazine, and then many other gigs including on-line gigs, newspapers, local magazines etc.
Now I've got a steady gig with About.com (New York Times Company) and continue to write for magazines and newspapers, both online and in print.
This week was another milestone for me. ATV Source Magazine contacted me and asked me to represent them at a Kawasaki Press Ride for their new quad. Kawasaki is going to fly me up to Medford Oregon and pay for everything and I get to ride quads and take pictures all day, then sell the articles/photos to the magazine.
I've done a press ride before for Yamaha but Yamaha contacted me via my About.com site. This time a magazine contacted me instead of the other way around. (I usually query the magazine and offer articles/reviews etc).
Probably a small step in the eyes of some here but it's a good feeling to know I was the first choice for the magazine to represent them.
So far my writing has not only helped me get into photography but it has also literally paid for ALL my equipment many times over. :thumbup:
I totally agree that if I was a freelancer, or had a third party company I could probably charge them a lot more, but as a photographer starting out, the offer of a fairly good salary for taking photos all day was too good an offer to pass up.
And right now, the experience is golden to me rather than a huge salary and as I can use the studio in my own time, I can add to my portfolio as I wish. We all have to start somewhere, right?
Hi Cinka, you're right, of course companies will hire a non-pro if it saves them money and it's not the most creative of photography genres! I'm taking up to 250 shots per day (useable ones that is) and the thanks is more a pat on the back than a financial bonus. However, the experience is invaluable, regardless of all that.
Rekd, that's a great story. Thanks! That gives me some encouragement (not that I'm not already encouraged!)
Congrats on the job!
I've always been told part of getting a job is being in the right place at the right time, and also just being lucky.
Reading this thread though has made me lose some faith in the professional photography career game lmao.
You're right, it is all about about luck. If I hadn't kept photography as an interest on my CV (which apparently, is a CV faux pas) and had got the job I originally applied for, I may never have this job.
I think professional photography (certainly as a freelancer) must be hard. I do worry about eventually hating it if I go freelance and don't enjoy the rest of the stuff that goes along with being a freelancer (marketing, financial stuff, etc.), but I guess there's only one way to find out!
I would have the same worry if I was to ever go into photography with the need to make enough money to eat. Seems to be a lot of unhappy pro photographers out there.
And third ... it's a 7 year old thread.
And 4th, it took away 5 minutes of my life reading it, will never recover those 5 min
Well, I am glad this thread resurfaced as I have now read the OPs bio (which is updated to at least 2015, possibly more recent?) and he seems to have continued as a pro photographer doing various subjects, there is hope for us all.
Ian Forknall - Biography - IMDb
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