I Wanna go Analog

[Lu_myself]

Hey i shoot with a D60 but im trying to get experience with shooting with a 35 mm Film Cam. I wanna know if therre are any experts on film photography that would be able to suggest an ideal 35mm slr.\

I've been looking around. i saw the NIKON N8008S AF. i seems this one is much older than the others i was looking at like the f50, f60 ,or the f80. Whats the deal like are the realy ancient ones better or what ?

 

[Alpha]

Go manual.

Classic student cameras are:
Canon AE1
Nikon FE2
Pentax ME/ME Super/Super Program.K1000.

I've used 'em all. Super Program is the best hands down. Aperture priority, easy to read light meter, great glass, affordable body. The glass is generally cheaper than Canon or Nikon b/c there are more Canon/Nikon shooters looking for used glass than Pentax shooters.

 

[Lu_myself]

So u would suggest the FE over something like the F60 with faster shutter speeds?

And anyword on the F69?

 

[ANDS!]

My question:

Why do you wan't to go from Digi-Tech to Film?

 

[Alpha]

So u would suggest the FE over something like the F60 with faster shutter speeds?

And anyword on the F69?

No, I wouldn't suggest the FE. It only does shutter speed priority and won't ap. priority, which in a lot of cases really sucks. It's also really clunky and has a hard-to-read light meter.

 

[Alpha]

My question:

Why do you wan't to go from Digi-Tech to Film?

Why do you wanna interject that bull**** into this thread?

Who gives a ****?

 

[Lu_myself]

My question:

Why do you wan't to go from Digi-Tech to Film?

I dont wanna go from Digi to Film . Im still going to shoot digi forever. I just feel its important to know about Film shooting and how its done. I also feel the fact that i wont be able to preview any of my work before its developed would help me with my exposure practice. i also, Film cams produce the best photos.

 

[ANDS!]

Why do you wanna interject that bull**** into this thread?

Who gives a ****?

:thumbup:

I do, or I wouldn't have asked. You see how that works yes? I take an interest, I ask a question. Marvelous thing this internet.

I dont wanna go from Digi to Film . Im still going to shoot digi forever. I just feel its important to know about Film shooting and how its done. I also feel the fact that i wont be able to preview any of my work before its developed would help me with my exposure practice. i also, Film cams produce the best photos.

I dig the first points, but the last one is debatable especially in this age of photographicary. Kudo's on the drive to "know ones roots" though, and I imagine film developing is in and of itself its own "hobby".

 

[Helen B]

The heart has reasons that Reason does not know.

 

[anubis404]

So u would suggest the FE over something like the F60 with faster shutter speeds?

And anyword on the F69?

I got an F75 body off ebay for about $55. Its a great camera and I highly recommend it.

 

[Harmony]

I use a Nikon FM2. It works wonderfully for me. Then again, I've never had the chance to shoot on any other 35mm bodies... better or worse, Alpha?

 

[pez]

I understand this. I've been thinking of getting my Pentax MX or ME Super repaired and tuned up for shooting some B&W, lately.

 

[ksmattfish]

I also feel the fact that i wont be able to preview any of my work before its developed would help me with my exposure practice.

It should be easy enough to turn off the LCD and auto photo review if you think that's really going to help. You will probably find that your photography is affected by not being able to review your work immediately much in the same way as if you weren't allowed to review your progress while performing many other tasks.

To suggest an ideal camera we need to know more about you, what you shoot, need, want, like, etc... Do you want a modern, electronic, feature laden, AF 35mm SLR, or an older, mechanical, manual focus 35mm SLR? Are you going with Nikon (maybe some of the gear will work for film and digital), or are other brands an option?

My favorite 35mm SLR is the Nikon FM2n. I like that it will run without batteries (everything except the meter). It has a 1/250th flash sync. It's fairly small, and very sturdy. They seemed cheap to me many years ago, and I assume they are even more reasonable now.

Film cams produce the best photos.

One of the most useful things about exploring different processes for me is that it's really taught me that the really important aspects of good photography don't have much to do with process.

 

[manaheim]

I totally support the idea of learning how to do the film thing. It's very cool, a great skill to have, always valuable to understand the roots of anything you want to do well, etc.

That being said...

I dont wanna go from Digi to Film . Im still going to shoot digi forever. I just feel its important to know about Film shooting and how its done. I also feel the fact that i wont be able to preview any of my work before its developed would help me with my exposure practice. i also, Film cams produce the best photos.

I'm not sure you will find this true. I spent some time trying to learn with my old Canon AE1 and found it INSANELY frustrating and hard to learn with. You could expose an entire roll, and not get a single good shot... you would have to write down your exact settings somewhere for each shot to have ANY hope of remembering what it was you did and be able to correlate that to whatever you got in the end.

It took real effort to make sure you got your pictures exposed and developed asap so you could have the memory fresh in your mind of what the environment was like, etc.

You also had to deal with the possibility of your exposure being dead-on but having the person printing them screw the picture up royally at time of printing, skewing your impression of your results... unless you also feel like buying a negative scanner, which I recommend, but a good one is expensive.

All this vs. 1. click, 2. look, 3. "Oh wait, not quite, let me do that again."

Again, I support what you are doing, but I strongly question that it will make learning photography easier... much to the contrary, it will likely make it much harder and a much slower process than it would with digital.

Oh, and I speak from experience on this. I started learning on an AE1, and it was a frustrating experience to the point where I eventually gave up and pretty much waited for DSLRs to become affordable, and then I learned extremely rapidly from there.

 

[surreal_izm74]

Well said Manaheim! I have a tutor that advises for us to start out with the film and the thought is too painfull and expensive...