If we, as TPF users feel the need to make a complaint to the admin...

[The_Traveler]

I tried to find how and how much to be a supporting member and can't seem to find this info.

 

[HughGuessWho99 14]

I tried to find how and how much to be a supporting member and can't seem to find this info.

$25 per year.

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/payments.php

 

[480sparky41 40]

Close your eyes, take a deep breath, unclench your fists and repeat 20 times, "It's only an internet forum......."

 

[KmH]

Regular member names are burgandy. Admin screen names are red.

 

[The_Traveler]

OK, now that I'm a I will feel free to point out silliness of the rule not allowing images to be posted under the Fair Use Doctrine.

One of the rights accorded to the owner of copyright is the right to reproduce or to authorize others to reproduce the work in copies or phonorecords. This right is subject to certain limitations found in sections 107 through 118 of the copyright law (title 17, U. S. Code). One of the more important limitations is the doctrine of “fair use.” The doctrine of fair use has developed through a substantial number of court decisions over the years and has been codified in section 107 of the copyright law.
Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered fair, such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair.

1. The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes
2. The nature of the copyrighted work
3. The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole
4. The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work

 

[e.rose]

I would hope that if you are going to complain you would at least become a supporting member...........

It's the things I am going to complain about that are KEEPING me from being willing to PAY $25 to BECOME a supporting member.

 

[IByte]

Sorry about typos.... iPhone!

It's ok Charlie we know it's the...ugh IPhone.

 

[jake337]

I would hope that if you are going to complain you would at least become a supporting member...........

Supporting member to whom? Are there no adds for supporting members? If there are no adds I might consider it.

 

[nmoody]

I would hope that if you are going to complain you would at least become a supporting member...........

Supporting member to whom? Are there no adds for supporting members? If there are no adds I might consider it.

Not "no" adds but reduced. No in thread adds and the ones up to are reduced. Removing some adds were a pleasant surprise. I mostly did it to support such a great resource.

 

[jake337]

I would hope that if you are going to complain you would at least become a supporting member...........

Supporting member to whom? Are there no adds for supporting members? If there are no adds I might consider it.

Not "no" adds but significantly reduced. No in thread adds and the ones up to are reduced. Removing some adds were a pleasant surprise. I mostly did it to support such a great resource.

Exactly! Who is the resource though? The individuals who help you out or some folks collecting money on adds and your "support"....

 

[PinkDoor]

OK, now that I'm a View attachment 14302 I will feel free to point out silliness of the rule not allowing images to be posted under the Fair Use Doctrine.

One of the rights accorded to the owner of copyright is the right to reproduce or to authorize others to reproduce the work in copies or phonorecords. This right is subject to certain limitations found in sections 107 through 118 of the copyright law (title 17, U. S. Code). One of the more important limitations is the doctrine of “fair use.” The doctrine of fair use has developed through a substantial number of court decisions over the years and has been codified in section 107 of the copyright law.
Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered fair, such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair.

1. The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes
2. The nature of the copyrighted work
3. The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole
4. The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work

Congrats on becoming BLUE! Great copyright excerpt!

 

[480sparky41 40]

OK, now that I'm a View attachment 14302 I will feel free to point out silliness of the rule not allowing images to be posted under the Fair Use Doctrine.

Start your own forum, and you can enact as many 'silly' rules as you like.

 

[Ernicus]

I became a supporting member to support the forums admins who are paying for us to have such a place to share and learn. Advertising rarely covers the whole bill. I ran a forum for 5 years out of my own pocket for the good of my members...so I understand how every little bit helps when it comes to internet forum costs.

 

[The_Traveler]

OK, now that I'm a View attachment 14302 I will feel free to point out silliness of the rule not allowing images to be posted under the Fair Use Doctrine.

Start your own forum, and you can enact as many 'silly' rules as you like.

Certain things are silly when they actually impede the 'progress.'

For example, if I would want to use another's photograph as an example of something terrific or of a technique or as just as a good representation of his style - a use not allowable under the current rule but certainly is allowable under the Fair Use Doctrine of the Copyright Law.

The Copyright Law is made to protect the rights of the maker and the Fair Use Provision serves to encourage the intellectual and artistic progress that doesn't harm the rights of the maker.

The verbiage is clear enough.

We currently use GIFs that are probably copyrighted by someone, yet we can't put up pictures that are disseminated for exactly the purpose of advertising without running afoul of the current rule here.

It is good that the Admins want to protect copyrights but the rules shouldn't go further than the actual copyright Law does. I suggest the Rule be loosened to correspond with the fair use doctrine.

My guess is that the burden on Mods won't change at all - and SchwettyLens can be given a reprieve for his victimless non-crime.

 

[480sparky41 40]

........It is good that the Admins want to protect copyrights but the rules shouldn't go further than the actual copyright Law does. ..........

Perhaps the Admin originally adopted this 'silly rule' to mitigate lawsuits. Nothing kills the fun more than a couple lawyers sticking their grubby mitts into other people's pockets.