Make Exif Data Mandatory

[Ballistics]

Because requiring EXIF info for C&C isn't a workable idea?

Not workable? As in it's impossible to help someone see where they went wrong by specifically pointing out what settings they may change? Also can be used as a teaching tool for others.

 

[SamSpade1941]

I am not sure posting the data is the best thing to be honest, just as I find some people to be much better at C&C than I do other's. If someone wants to know the exposure information because they think it might be helpful then ask me. Otherwise there is no reason, I made a habit for a long time of running my jpegs through a stripper to remove exif information after processing. It really depends on what I am doing with my photos. If the information is really needed for a useful and helpful constructive C&C as I have gotten from more than a few members than ask away and I will provide it. If you just because. I think that is cluttering a post and absurd.

YMMV

 

[LizardKing]

This I agree with, but why the anti-exif campaign?

You sorta started a pro-EXIF campaign... but we're on an anti-EXIF one?

This is ... odd.

What's odd is that you concentrated on the term I used vs just answering the question. Why is everyone against Exif data?

The less rules you have to post images, the better. It has to be simple and easy for anyone to understand, remember and follow. I don't see anyone here against EXIF data. Like Bitter said, it's useful for some things, but we should concentrate more on what we see when giving C&C. If you see anything strange and want to take a look at it, then good for you. It's pretty easy to get. But other than that, what would we gain from having this thing mandatory when posting pics? Doesn't make sense at all, plus it would take a great amount of time an effort to educate people where to get it, what's important about it... And take into consideration the forums gets new members every day... So, again... what do we won from doing this?

 

[Ballistics]

I am not sure posting the data is the best thing to be honest, just as I find some people to be much better at C&C than I do other's. If someone wants to know the exposure information because they think it might be helpful then ask me. Otherwise there is no reason, I made a habit for a long time of running my jpegs trough a stripped to remove exif information. It really depends on what I am doing with my photos. If the information is really needed for a useful and helpful constructive C&C as I have gotten from more than a few members than ask away and I will provide it. If you just because. I think that is cluttering a post and absurd.

YMMV

Absurd is a bit strong lol. I'm assuming you are on your phone because it butchered some of those sentences but I think I got what you are trying to say.

 

[Ballistics]

You sorta started a pro-EXIF campaign... but we're on an anti-EXIF one?

This is ... odd.

What's odd is that you concentrated on the term I used vs just answering the question. Why is everyone against Exif data?

The less rules you have to post images, the better. It has to be simple and easy for anyone to understand, remember and follow. I don't see anyone here against EXIF data. Like Bitter said, it's useful for some things, but we should concentrate more on what we see when giving C&C. If you see anything strange and want to take a look at it, then good for you. It's pretty easy to get. But other than that, what would we gain from having this thing mandatory when posting pics? Doesn't make sense at all, plus it would take a great amount of time an effort to educate people where to get it, what's important about it... And take into consideration the forums gets new members every day... So, again... what do we won from doing this?

It's not easy to get if it's stripped. I have an exif add-on but as time goes on, more and more people are stripping the data.
My question here is why? Why strip the data? Why strip the data if you plan on telling people if they ask? Doesn't make sense to me.

 

[LizardKing]

What's odd is that you concentrated on the term I used vs just answering the question. Why is everyone against Exif data?

The less rules you have to post images, the better. It has to be simple and easy for anyone to understand, remember and follow. I don't see anyone here against EXIF data. Like Bitter said, it's useful for some things, but we should concentrate more on what we see when giving C&C. If you see anything strange and want to take a look at it, then good for you. It's pretty easy to get. But other than that, what would we gain from having this thing mandatory when posting pics? Doesn't make sense at all, plus it would take a great amount of time an effort to educate people where to get it, what's important about it... And take into consideration the forums gets new members every day... So, again... what do we won from doing this?

It's not easy to get if it's stripped. I have an exif add-on but as time goes on, more and more people are stripping the data.
My question here is why? Why strip the data? Why strip the data if you plan on telling people if they ask? Doesn't make sense to me.

Maybe it doesn't for you or me, but that's a personal decision for each poster and don't think there should be a rule for it. But anyway, that's a different discussion.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

People have a hard enough time figuring out how to post pictures here, and you want to mandate that they also post something they don't even know what it is?

 

[SamSpade1941]

I am not sure posting the data is the best thing to be honest, just as I find some people to be much better at C&C than I do other's. If someone wants to know the exposure information because they think it might be helpful then ask me. Otherwise there is no reason, I made a habit for a long time of running my jpegs trough a stripped to remove exif information. It really depends on what I am doing with my photos. If the information is really needed for a useful and helpful constructive C&C as I have gotten from more than a few members than ask away and I will provide it. If you just because. I think that is cluttering a post and absurd.

YMMV

Absurd is a bit strong lol. I'm assuming you are on your phone because it butchered some of those sentences but I think I got what you are trying to say.

Actually I was on the phone , typing and talking have never been my forte.

 

[o hey tyler]

What's odd is that you concentrated on the term I used vs just answering the question. Why is everyone against Exif data?

I'm not against exif data. I actually post my work onto a site so that the exif data is retained. If people want to take about my use of shutter speed, ISO, or aperture, then clearly I have my camera questionably set for a certain shot. So far, I've had zero issues with anyone pointing out an error or suggestion on how I shoot in accordance with my exif data.

 

[o hey tyler]

I am not sure it should be mandatory for C&C though. However helpful it may be.

I do get tired with people posting images and they clearly have a user error associated with them, but it takes forever for them to post exif.

But a lot of people that strip it don't know that they're doing so, and they don't know how to find it in the first place.

 

[Ernicus]

What's the purpose in stripping the data? I can only think it's done to hide it as it does not create a larger file size of note. I guess I just don't understand the point of stripping it, to me it takes more steps to strip it, and two...what's the point in hiding it? It's not like it's something magic that people will never know or copy your technique.

While my post may seem sarcastic in nature, it's just how I am. I really am curious as to why people would bother stripping the data.

 

[LizardKing]

What's the purpose in stripping the data? I can only think it's done to hide it as it does not create a larger file size of note. I guess I just don't understand the point of stripping it, to me it takes more steps to strip it, and two...what's the point in hiding it? It's not like it's something magic that people will never know or copy your technique.

While my post may seem sarcastic in nature, it's just how I am. I really am curious as to why people would bother stripping the data.

If one thing I've learned, is that not all people are logical and there's all kinds of crazy out there xD

 

[manaheim]

What's odd is that you concentrated on the term I used vs just answering the question. Why is everyone against Exif data?

What is odd is our not agreeing with it being MANDATED means we're AGAINST iexif data.

I'm not against it the iexif data posted at the posters option... but as others said... Mandating will add an extra step that will confuse the crap out of some people and inconvenience others. I would either ignore the rule and get yelled at or just stop posting images. I wouldn't be alone.

 

[jaomul]

I like checking the exif in some shots but if its not there that's the way it is. I do remember seeing a great photo on a camera mag recently where the only gripe from the judges was something to the effect "you didn't need to use a shutter speed of 1/8000 sec and an ISO of 800, a shutter speed of 1/1000 and an ISO of 100 would have been better for noise etc". The shot was taken with a good fullframe dslr that had been reviewed in that mag a while previous. They said then noise was negligible up to 1600 or 3200,not sure but 800 was great. Point being that the exif data readings because of theoretical better settings put negative aspects to an otherwise great image. Settings can sometimes be over rated

 

[usayit]

I vote no... its a distraction and really not all that important to a critique. A technical discussion, yes.. but if your critique starts out with the technical then you shouldn't be giving a critique in the first place.