My experience with gimbal heads.

Buckster · Feb 5, 2015

Well, that sure was a sad display of backpedaling... It's just too bad that it doesn't for a moment change what we know is your actual position about the prices and quality of the items in question, per the things you actually said throughout the thread. In any case, enjoy that alternate reality you've decided to try to construct.

In the end, all it really comes down to is the fact that you obviously can't defend your contentions and can't provide the quantifiable justifications you said you "gladly" would.

Final thoughts: With that level of denial about what you've said, you should consider a career in politics.

/thread

Ted Evans · Feb 5, 2015

Buckster said:
Well, that sure was a sad display of backpedaling... It's just too bad that it doesn't for a moment change what we know is your actual position about the prices and quality of the items in question, per the things you actually said throughout the thread. In any case, enjoy that alternate reality you've decided to try to construct.

In the end, all it really comes down to is the fact that you obviously can't defend your contentions and can't provide the quantifiable justifications you said you "gladly" would.

Final thoughts: With that level of denial about what you've said, you should consider a career in politics.

/thread

And you are unable to answer the questions asked, you cannot offer any refutable evidence for the information presented but are great at making excuses and false accusations. In fact, when you cannot quote me saying what you claim, you have admitted to making false accusation. How can I "backpedal" when you have not presented any evidence of me saying something that needs "backpedaling"? I have no problem with people disagreeing with me or even correcting me when I am in error but I have a huge problem with dishonesty, IMO, it is disgusting and inexcusable. Now, if you will quote me saying what you claim I have said, I will apologize here for everyone to see, will you do the same if you cannot? Silly me, there I go asking questions when I know you are not going to answer them, which is understandable since we both know that very little, if any, of your assertions can you back up. Speaking of denial, I addressed each one of your points and offered some independent data in support of my position but you avoided every one of them and offer nothing but more false accusations. So, is it denial or, a comprehension problem on your part?

Ted Evans · Feb 5, 2015

Buckster” said:
No problem. I'm just big on seeing the evidence that supports the statements people make.

Is that not interesting Buck is big on seeing evidence that supports statements but he refuses to offer any himself. I see that mentality a lot in forums when someone dares to challenge false accusations and/or disinformation.

Ted Evans · Feb 5, 2015

Buckster said:
Well, that sure was a sad display of backpedaling... It's just too bad that it doesn't for a moment change what we know is your actual position about the prices and quality of the items in question, per the things you actually said throughout the thread. In any case, enjoy that alternate reality you've decided to try to construct.

In the end, all it really comes down to is the fact that you obviously can't defend your contentions and can't provide the quantifiable justifications you said you "gladly" would.

Final thoughts: With that level of denial about what you've said, you should consider a career in politics.

/thread

When one has no plausible, verifiable response and find it embarrassing to answer questions, the above is the kind of response one can expect.

Ted Evans · Feb 5, 2015

Buckster said:
Well, that sure was a sad display of backpedaling... It's just too bad that it doesn't for a moment change what we know is your actual position about the prices and quality of the items in question, per the things you actually said throughout the thread. In any case, enjoy that alternate reality you've decided to try to construct.

In the end, all it really comes down to is the fact that you obviously can't defend your contentions and can't provide the quantifiable justifications you said you "gladly" would.

Final thoughts: With that level of denial about what you've said, you should consider a career in politics.

/thread

Ted Evans" said:
14) Do you see one word in those comments about cost, do you see one word where I was trashing the Induro or, did I relate my experience with the unit? Did I imply that I was looking for the most expensive unit or was I looking for a quality unit at the most reasonable price? Did I not also explain why I chose to send the unit back and order the Wimberley?

Three very simple, unambiguous questions that could be answered with one word yet you avoid them like the plagues of Eygpt, why?

Ted Evans · Feb 5, 2015

How childish, he cannot offer any plausible response so out of frustration he has to press the "disagree" button. Very impressive.

Ted Evans · Feb 5, 2015

Buckster said:
Well, that sure was a sad display of backpedaling... It's just too bad that it doesn't for a moment change what we know is your actual position about the prices and quality of the items in question, per the things you actually said throughout the thread. In any case, enjoy that alternate reality you've decided to try to construct.

In the end, all it really comes down to is the fact that you obviously can't defend your contentions and can't provide the quantifiable justifications you said you "gladly" would.

Final thoughts: With that level of denial about what you've said, you should consider a career in politics.

/thread

Ted Evans" said:
I did find a review by “digital camera world” that listed the top 6 models.

Benro GHA Gimbal Head
Manfrotto 393 Long Lens Monopod Bracket
Benro GH1 Gimbal Head
Triopo DG-3 Gimbal Head
Wimberley WH-200 Mk II
Custom Brackets Gimbal LS Head

17) How about that, not one Opteka model made the list. Apparently, digital camera world places a higher value on the Wimberley than they do the Opteka but I bet that is not “quantifiable justification” in your mind either, correct?

Hey Buck, there is some evidence supporting my position, where is yours? Or is the best you can do is to "disagree"?

Ted Evans · Feb 5, 2015

Buckster said:
Well, that sure was a sad display of backpedaling... It's just too bad that it doesn't for a moment change what we know is your actual position about the prices and quality of the items in question, per the things you actually said throughout the thread. In any case, enjoy that alternate reality you've decided to try to construct.

In the end, all it really comes down to is the fact that you obviously can't defend your contentions and can't provide the quantifiable justifications you said you "gladly" would.

Final thoughts: With that level of denial about what you've said, you should consider a career in politics.

/thread

Ted Evans" said:
18) 275 reviews of the Wimberley at B&H and I believe I am being conservative when I say over 90% were 5 star and the remainder were 4, not one less than 4. In a group this large, I would expect there be a few complaints, if nothing else, the price. OTOH, the 150 reviews on Amazon for the Opteka, there were…

5 star 76

4 star 41

3 star 17

2 star 6

1 star 10

Since you chose to ignore more evidence, I take it that you cannot explain the enormous difference in ratings if, the Opteka is just as good as the Wimberley, is that about right? Makes me want to box up the Wimberley and get an Opteka ordered promptly.